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Old December 23rd, 2015, 02:34 PM
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200TDi into series: engine brackets?

The engine I have doesn't have mounting brackets. I did find new rubber mounts in the stash of parts that were included in the deal. What do I need to bolt the 200TDi block to the series frame? I'm finding different info on the web. Will the stock series brackets work, or do I need something else?
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 02:49 PM
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The engine I have doesn't have mounting brackets. I did find new rubber mounts in the stash of parts that were included in the deal. What do I need to bolt the 200TDi block to the series frame? I'm finding different info on the web. Will the stock series brackets work, or do I need something else?
Stock series brackets will work. Though, the Defender one for the LH side allows for a bigger donut to absorb all those diesel vibes.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 03:16 PM
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Dang, that bracket is expensive.

It looks like a little cutting and welding here and there on the series bracket would give me more room for a bigger bush too.
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Old December 27th, 2015, 09:38 AM
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The left side frame mount is ok, the right side frame mount you have to modify. I cut mine off and basically turned it upside down and welded it back on after aligning it up with new rubbers.
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Old December 28th, 2015, 01:32 PM
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Do you have a Defender or Discovery 200?
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Old December 28th, 2015, 03:23 PM
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I have a Disco 200 with Defender intake and exhaust. It's my understanding that the one good thing about the Disco into a Series swap is that the timing cover is in a better position than the Defender setup.
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I have a Disco 200 with Defender intake and exhaust. It's my understanding that the one good thing about the Disco into a Series swap is that the timing cover is in a better position than the Defender setup.
? Better how? It's still tight in there no matter how you slice it.
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Old December 30th, 2015, 11:34 AM
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The disco timing case allows you to use the standard 2.25 brackets and frame mounts (no chassis welding).

However the Defender turbo and Series steering box will still want to occupy the same space.
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Old December 30th, 2015, 08:01 PM
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The disco timing case allows you to use the standard 2.25 brackets and frame mounts (no chassis welding).

However the Defender turbo and Series steering box will still want to occupy the same space.
Defender turbo is on top. You might be thinking of the Disco turbo which hangs below the intake.

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Another tip that will make your life easier.. remove the turbo exhaust outlet. Cut it.. Turn the bottom to exit in a better location ( not at your steering ) Re-Weld. This welding job removes the need to do a power steering conversion. It's a specialist welding job, but worth it. I think I paid $50 for the welding job.
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No I am definitely thinking of the Defender 200Tdi manifold fouling the steering box. I wrestled with it on mine and just decided to go P38 power steering.

If its a RHD vehicle then there's no issue.
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Old December 31st, 2015, 11:19 AM
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No I am definitely thinking of the Defender 200Tdi manifold fouling the steering box. I wrestled with it on mine and just decided to go P38 power steering.

If its a RHD vehicle then there's no issue.
You have details on this steering conversion?
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Old December 31st, 2015, 11:21 AM
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not on mine personally, its well documented throughout the web though.

basic details, I used a Defender steering column, custom bracketry to hold it in place, P38 steering box on the frame rail, and custom shaft connecting the two.

Converting a series Land Rover to power steering
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I converted mine in preparation for swapping the engine. I'm glad I did because once the engine was in place there was no room for even the old throttle linkage. I used a P38 box and modified the Series column. Also some more info here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ect-58412.html
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Old January 3rd, 2016, 11:25 AM
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I converted mine in preparation for swapping the engine. I'm glad I did because once the engine was in place there was no room for even the old throttle linkage. I used a P38 box and modified the Series column. Also some more info here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ect-58412.html

That looks pretty slick. This project seems straightforward enough except for keeping the Series steering wheel. I think I need more pictures for that part. Mounting the p38 box and fabbing a new lower shaft looks basic enough.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 04:45 PM
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I converted mine in preparation for swapping the engine. I'm glad I did because once the engine was in place there was no room for even the old throttle linkage. I used a P38 box and modified the Series column. Also some more info here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ect-58412.html
That looks like a steering shaft from a RRC, is it not?

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Old January 4th, 2016, 10:08 PM
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Yes, it is from a RRC. I cut the worm gear portion of the Series shaft off and welded the lower half of the RRC shaft to the Series shaft. The bottom portion of the RRC housing with the bearing is mated to the outer portion of the Series housing. I fabbed up a simple plate to bolt the lower housing to the bulkhead. It would be easy enough to use a pillow block bearing if you wanted to instead of the RRC lower bearing.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 10:11 AM
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Perfect! TYVM!
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