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Old March 17th, 2016, 05:26 PM
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200tdi crank pulley, same for discovery and defender?

Heh all,
So the crank pulley in my 200tdi just got remodeled by the front dif in my 109. Mental note, need military bump stops.

Does anyone know if the defender and discovery 200tdis use the same crank pulley? Should do, right?
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Old March 17th, 2016, 05:55 PM
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Follow up question.
Does anyone have the dimensions (or a part number) for the v belt on the 200tdi?
I'm broken down by an oreilleys. If I could get a v belt to work that might get me home I'd be extremely grateful.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 06:50 PM
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Crank pulley the same but not if aircon

Belt on disco 200Tdi gates 6281 Z 7270, 9.5/10mm x 700mm

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Old March 17th, 2016, 07:06 PM
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Thank you!
Rovers north is about 10 days out on stock.
Anyone know of a stateside source for parts that might be a little quicker?
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Old March 17th, 2016, 07:13 PM
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What are you needing??
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Old March 17th, 2016, 07:22 PM
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Ideally I need a new crank pulley, and at least one replacement vee belt (crank-alternator-water pump) for the disco 200tdi in my 109.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 07:33 PM
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Crank pulley? Damper or the pulley that bolts to the damper for the belt drive?
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Old March 17th, 2016, 07:56 PM
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its the pulley that bolts to the damper for the belt drive. Just got home so I can follow up posts with pics now.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 08:10 PM
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If this the correct one I can loan till you get one
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thats mighty nice of you, but in this case it's my own fault i broke my truck so it can sit idle while I wait for parts It's my own fault for not checking that the bump stops had been replaced by the previous owner with the military ones. Terri Ann's article on 200tdi conversion totally calls this out as an issue to avoid.

That does look like the correct one. Is that originally off of a Defender 200TDI ? From my google-ing it appears that the discovery 200tdi originally came with a separate belt setup and that the pulley off of the crank had 2-3 grooves depending on whether the car had AC on not.
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Old March 17th, 2016, 09:42 PM
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When I build an engine conversion, one of the QA tests is to take a come-along or chain and connect the end to the bottom support of a cable ramp lift with the other end connected to the front frame section.
Then I raise the lift until it fully compresses the diff onto the bump stops in order to simulate full rebound.
Then you can see if any of the engine and attachments will potentially make contact with the front differential.
If it does, dear Watson you have a situation of the application of simple physics, as matter, anything that takes up space and has mass or weight cannot occupy the same space as a different body of matter that also takes up space and has mass or weight.
Such a collision of the two opposing bodies of matter will result in damage to one or both of the objects involved.
In other words don't allow the engine or any part attached to it strike the front differential or anything attached.
Limiting the front differential travel is more of a work around than real solution.
The real question is, can the engine be raised from it's current location and avoid a front differential collision without limiting the travel with military style bump stops???
Limiting your diff travel with Military bump stops will only mean that under "easy and unnatural" circumstances your front diff will "bottom out" by making a premature full travel that is actually much shorter than originally designed.
WHAM!!!
Not the optimal solution...
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Old March 17th, 2016, 10:45 PM
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Hi Robert, thanks for your reply. I'll need to take a long look at how the 200tdi fits and whether there's any room to move it. However, none of the material I've seen on series 200tdi conversions that I've read has the engine mounts any differently.

Suspension is already impeded by the previous owner running the stock leaf springs but having added the significantly heavier diesel. Stock springs look way too flat. In a fairly mild first off-road test, the suspension proved itself to be shockingly bad as currently set up. I could probably run that heavily pot holed fire road in relative comfort in both my d2 or the classic.

First order of business is to repair what I broke. Then, I'll start looking at setting the suspension up correctly and try some mild off-road again. I want to explore what a properly setup leaf sprung truck can do before I start getting radical with a coil conversion (or taking the body off and putting it on my lwb )
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Thank you!
Rovers north is about 10 days out on stock.
Anyone know of a stateside source for parts that might be a little quicker?
Should have one we can pull from an engine for you - same PN as the 2.5NA Also have an air order ready to leave the UK if you wanted to add one on.

If it was a 300tdi I'd have one in stock for you.
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Should have one we can pull from an engine for you - same PN as the 2.5NA Also have an air order ready to leave the UK if you wanted to add one on.

If it was a 300tdi I'd have one in stock for you.
Gig harbor? Not too far from me. I'll give you a holler in the morning.
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