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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:57 PM
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* "Will most likely need a rebuilt gearbox and transfer case
* and with the gearbox will come slave cylinder, clutch, and flywheel resurfacing.
* Needs new belts
* Accelerator cable mount is broken
* Needs new battery
* Passeger rear turn signal bulb is out
* Rear door frame is pretty well rusted
* It has some excessive wiring (to be explained below ... kind of a wild story)"

C.S., if someone is paying retail, what do you estimate the installed cost would be for three new doors, transmission, flywheel, clutch hydraulics, belts, tune-up, etc., and a re-spray, even if only the doors? I could see many here paying north of $15k for this work. Then factor in the 10-15%/yr these Ds have been appreciating over the last two years. What would the asking price for this reconditioned D be today at a dealership or similar shop?
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Old January 13th, 2015, 03:23 PM
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Price is what it is, who knows if someone will pay that, not the point. I thinking the larger concern is "California" vehicle, "Never seen snow" and any odometer discrepancy. Unless this has a galvanized frame swap, I couldn't see how this is other than pure misleading.

PLUS didn't CS have the tranny done on his dime before selling it originally, so that value is not related to any new refurb costs when justifying the price increase. I thought that was the case, maybe I am wrong.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 03:41 PM
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168k to 161k sounds like a typo and I don't see any mention of "never seen snow" in the ad. Sorry, but essentially every Defender ad placed by a dealer/shop is laced with embellished BS for the simple fact they really don't have a clue about the vehicle they are trying to turn for the buisness of feeding their family or otherwise. Grab the Picasa link to the hi-res photos of some of ECR's builds after a few years on the shore. Tons of rusty bits for >$175k. Granted, this market place is absurd, but there is no reason to bitch every time these trucks get flipped for a profit by the dealers/shops. It is their job to do so.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 03:43 PM
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168k to 161k sounds like a typo and I don't see any mention of "never seen snow" in the ad. Sorry, but essentially every Defender ad placed by a dealer/shop is laced with embellished BS for the simple fact they really don't have a clue about the vehicle they are trying to turn for the buisness of feeding their family or otherwise. Grab the Picasa link to the hi-res photos of some of ECR's builds after a few years on the shore. Tons of rusty bits for >$175k. Granted, this market place is absurd, but there is no reason to bitch every time these trucks get flipped for a profit by the dealers/shops. It is their job to do so.
From the AutoTrader ad is the "snow" reference:
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From the AutoTrader ad is the "snow" reference:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ngId=387064974

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This Defender 90 Station Wagon is one of a limited batch of 500 hard tops imported by Land Rover into the United States for 1995. Brought to you by America's leading independent Land Rover specialists, Atlantic British Ltd. This California vehicle has no rust and features a brand new R380 transmission. If you are looking for a Defender 90, you know of their durability and status as a true off-road icon. This one will not disappoint! Details: V8 3.9 Liter Fuel-Injected Engine. Color: Coniston Green with Limestone Hardtop. Limited Edition - Only 500 Manufactured. Air Conditioning. North American Spec Model (NAS). Rust-free - California Vehicle. Excellent Condition Inside and Out. New R380 5-speed Transmission. Rear Cargo Jump Seats. Professionally-Sprayed New Paint and Finish. Just Fully Serviced by Our Factory-Trained Rover Technician. Clean Title & US-Legal. Located at Atlantic British Headquarters, Clifton Park, NY. Can ship vehicle to your location - ask for details., All scheduled maintenance, Excellent condition, Looks & drives great, Must see, Never seen snow, New paint, Seats like new, Title in hand, Very clean interior, Well maintained
------ Follow up post added January 13th, 2015 03:46 PM ------

All this aside, one has to wonder if perhaps the party that AB purchased from may have been the one regurgitating the above information (i.e. that's what AB was "told")...and certainly if they purchased it from CA and shipped it east, it may have been an assumption from their end. Granted, that information is available via carfax/etc to verify, but it seems uncharacteristic of AB to be misrepresenting themselves or a vehicle - they have always been good folks in my dealings with them, and a know quite a few people over there as do many here on the board.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 03:55 PM
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Was just looking at the ad on their website and what Josh posted. My guess AB will do some more research on the D, tone down their ad(s), and come here to make amends.
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* "Will most likely need a rebuilt gearbox and transfer case * and with the gearbox will come slave cylinder, clutch, and flywheel resurfacing. * Needs new belts * Accelerator cable mount is broken * Needs new battery * Passeger rear turn signal bulb is out * Rear door frame is pretty well rusted * It has some excessive wiring (to be explained below ... kind of a wild story)" C.S., if someone is paying retail, what do you estimate the installed cost would be for three new doors, transmission, flywheel, clutch hydraulics, belts, tune-up, etc., and a re-spray, even if only the doors? I could see many here paying north of $15k for this work. Then factor in the 10-15%/yr these Ds have been appreciating over the last two years. What would the asking price for this reconditioned D be today at a dealership or similar shop?
I did all of this work before I sold it, including a new gear box. The only thing that wasn't repaired was the rear door rust, and much of the wiring was still wild. And to my knowledge the whole truck wasn't resprayed. Just the driver rear corner by a buddy of the guy who bought it from me.

------ Follow up post added January 13th, 2015 04:33 PM ------

Anyway. I don't care. I did a ton of work on this truck before I sold it. Blood, sweat, dollars, and tears.

I wasn't trying to cause any controversy just thought it was odd that a reputable company was selling my truck and being slightly less than honest in their description.

AB called me personally before they bought the truck from the last owner and I gave them the full rundown, which I why I find it more odd that they seemed to have omitted the details.

I am all for folks making money and sustaining business, I just think it's in poor form to withhold or twist details. I wish them the best, and I hope the next owner does a bit of research before he or she forks out a big wad of dough.
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Not sure of the process but interested. Please advise and thank you

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Sold my NAS 90 to forum member Rubicon21 a few months ago for $21.5k he gave it a good wax, pulled the rack, and re-listed for $35.9k on Craigslist. I have him a good deal because I wanted it to go to a forum member. I think I got take advantage of.

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1995 Land Rover Defender 90 - $35900 (North County)

1995 Defender 90 SW
Excellent driving wagon with168k miles, runs great. 3.9 liter rebuilt engine, new (R380) 5 speed transmission, new clutch assembly, slave cylinder, water pump, fuel and oil pressure sensors, new Bosch 02 sensors and oil cooler line upgrade kit. Recent LR Coniston green paint with no dents or scratches and solid doors and panels. Excellent interior, headliner with LR stock hounds tooth seats, new cubby box and dash pad. All lights and gauges work, original Warn winch and tool kit.
Clear and clean California title.

This is one of my several weekend cars and is fun to drive, looking to make some space in my garage. Will entertain a serious and reasonable offer.



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Year and a half old thread, did you read any of it?
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Year and a half old thread, did you read any of it?

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