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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:19 PM
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:25 PM
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Did you read it? Does it say restoration?

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This is clearly not the same truck. This truck by ECR WAS restored, vs this one.

No, $10k will only cover service and upgrades!

Don't you guys think maybe $10k in reno will make this now a $40k truck???
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:31 PM
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Possibly, but I think anyone here who has spent enough time around Defenders can tell you that when rust is THIS bad in visible areas, it's only the tip of the iceberg. It's not like somebody took the time to treat the bulkhead r other areas and left the rear crossmember to rot. NO! This truck smacks of neglect. Okay, so the frame swap may cost $10 (for the sake of this discussion) but you could be looking at another $5-$10 in ancillaries, IF it's a typical Defender. I'm doing some annual sorting to my truck and I'm looking at $2000 in parts. You're dreaming if you think this thing is gonna get restored for $10,000. If you find one issue that wasn't clearly visible, you're upside down really quick. Then, if the body and frame are this neglected, I'm guessing the mechanicals are suspect.
I was wondering about the unseen stuff as well.
Still, I hate to see the poor thing just tossed aside like an old shoe.
Someone here with patience and know how needs to save it.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:40 PM
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Did you read it? Does it say restoration?
Yeah did you??

"Here you can see the POE Defender 90 Wagon is complete and ready to head back to New Jersey. It has been fully serviced and had a number of needed repairs completed and some large upgrades like the addition of air conditioning. We also added a number of custom touches to make the 90 unique. These upgrades and repairs will help this higher mileage Defender keep going for the long haul and look great doing it."
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:51 PM
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Yeah did you??

"Here you can see the POE Defender 90 Wagon is complete and ready to head back to New Jersey. It has been fully serviced and had a number of needed repairs completed and some large upgrades like the addition of air conditioning. We also added a number of custom touches to make the 90 unique. These upgrades and repairs will help this higher mileage Defender keep going for the long haul and look great doing it."
Repairs & upgrades are not the same as a restoration.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:56 PM
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Happens to Discos of similar vintage (and cost when new) everyday. -Jeff
I'm trying to keep mine nice. Just replaced the dash that was starting to warp.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 08:59 PM
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Semantics but fine you're right. IMO these trucks don't look to be in the same condition. Either way just surprised if it is the same ECR would claim to have "fixed" it and it still looks like this. And then would display it on their site as another ECR production.
That's all I was really commenting on. ECR is big into keeping their brand and I'd sooner believe they would walk away from a crap project than partially fix it.
Ad claims the rest is good. Someone needs to check this out in real life.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 09:26 PM
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Typical Detroit environmentally enhanced frame modification.

Nothing I can't fix with foam spray, rollup window screen & Bondo!

Don't even have to dust off the plasma cutter and tig welder!
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Old March 13th, 2015, 10:35 PM
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Well, some one bought it. They ended the listing early
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Old March 13th, 2015, 10:51 PM
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Somebody bought themselves a massive restoration project for a premium price.
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Old March 13th, 2015, 11:01 PM
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This is clearly not the same truck. This truck by ECR WAS restored, vs this one. Don't you guys think maybe $10k in reno will make this now a $40k truck???
That's clearly the same truck and was definitely not "restored"

-Both are from NJ
-Both have the newer style A/C system installed
-Both have a front passenger gloss flare while all others are matte
-both are rust buckets
-neither has been "restored"
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Old March 14th, 2015, 12:38 AM
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Yeah, Joshua is right. There's no date on that ECR page, but it could have been like 15 years ago when they posted that because according to the page source it was created by Adobe PageMill 2.0 Mac which was released in 1997. The earliest archive of the website was captured on May 10, 2006. So obviously the rust probably wasn't that bad back then.

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