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Old March 3rd, 2016, 01:01 PM
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What exactly do you think they should improve? These are simple vehicles, doing very simple things.

Or is it just that they do not reflect your personal opinions? Or are you talking about LMP1 style multi-billion dollar racing programs?
In stock or close to stock form I think the suspension works well for a driver and light duty wheeler. For someone building a truck for heavier offroad use or competition, there's plenty to be gained. The front end really doesn't offer much for travel before it binds, which can leave the truck feeling unbalanced since the rear works fairly well for what it is. Something like a 3-link, for instance, would offer a lot more performance over the radius arms. The rear improves a lot when you lengthen the lowers slightly and ditch the frame-side bushings, but you're still left with pretty high anti squat numbers and a little bit of rear steer.

My point was that, for a 'purpose built' offroad truck, there is a lot those guys can be doing to improve the way these trucks perform in the dirt. That's assuming there aren't rules keeping those changes from being made.

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Old March 3rd, 2016, 01:43 PM
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It looks like a nice rig built to handle the trails in the UK. We do the same here in the US King Of The Hammers | Ultra4Racing.com even with Rovers ROCK WARE - RR Range Rover / Discovery Tube Buggy.
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 01:49 PM
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It's a buggie, and it looks like a pretty nice one at that.

Landy_Andy is building a REALLY nice one....
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 02:24 PM
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It's a buggie, and it looks like a pretty nice one at that.

Landy_Andy is building a REALLY nice one....
Yes he is, and that rig has some serious thought into it, other than "add to cart" on the 4x4 wholesale website...
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Old March 4th, 2016, 09:02 AM
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I'm sure those rear shocks are super effective laid over at 45 degrees.

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Looks like it's a cantilever setup.
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Old March 4th, 2016, 09:08 AM
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Looks like it's a cantilever setup.
That's what I thought at first glance, but if you look closer there's no fulcrum point to pivot on, and the shock is definitely mounted to the axle.

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Old March 4th, 2016, 09:33 AM
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I've never been a Winch Challenge event, but from what I have seen in videos, my guess is that extreme articulation wouldn't really help much.

It seems most winch challenge courses are several hundred feet in length and are either near-vertical rocks, off-camber, or muddy slopes where you absolutely must use a winch. Some of these trucks have four(!) winches.

My guess is that getting too fancy on suspension really doesn't buy much of an advantage. But that's just a guess.
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Old March 4th, 2016, 10:44 AM
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The guy that sold me my 200tdi owns a shop in UK that builds cars like this http://www.gaz-fab.co.uk

It might be from them judging by all the orange parts.
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