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Old March 3rd, 2009, 12:37 PM
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Clutch pedal towers

Ebay item # 260364069572

These are supposed to be a nice conversion if you have an older vehicle with the early style pedal. I have two on the shelf waiting for install. The over center spring is supposed to decrease pedal effort substantially. Haven't tried it yet but looking forward to easing the stress on my weak left knee. And a good price too from our friend down south.
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 02:07 PM
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You are supposed to run those with an additional spring. On my 95 the additional spring broke and while it still works, it does not release quickly as it should. (I ordered a new spring which has not arrived yet).
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 02:40 PM
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hmmm, I'll have to look at that. Where does the add'l spring go?

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just looked at the auction again, if you mean the return spring that goes between the little eye on the pedal arm and a bracket or tab held down by one of the 6 mounting bolts, then yes, that part should be there. As it has been on every series land rover I have ever owned. The over center spring provides pedal assist which was my point, these are supposed to be easier to push down.

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You are supposed to run those with an additional spring. On my 95 the additional spring broke and while it still works, it does not release quickly as it should. (I ordered a new spring which has not arrived yet).
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 04:42 PM
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See this post:

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Old March 3rd, 2009, 05:50 PM
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gotcha. so are you saying this spring is not normally fitted? it seems as though it should be since there is a tab for it on the pedal arm. anyway, thanks for the heads up dude.

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Old March 3rd, 2009, 09:44 PM
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We put these new style ones in Cabells 110 when we did the lhd conversion. Huge difference in pedal pressure. Get caught in traffic with my truck and your legs will look like Hershel Walkers by the time you reach your destination.
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 10:32 PM
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We put these new style ones in Cabells 110 when we did the lhd conversion. Huge difference in pedal pressure. Get caught in traffic with my truck and your legs will look like Hershel Walkers by the time you reach your destination.
See this is what I dislike about the new style. I use the new style with the addition of the old style spring, otherwise the clutch does not release quick enough.

"so are you saying this spring is not normally fitted?"

some have them, some don't in my experience. Those without could have broken/fallen off though.
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Mine seems to be fine without an additional spring. Add the spring and you have stiff pedal again, correct?
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Old March 4th, 2009, 02:53 PM
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doesn't make sense. my old style pedal has the return spring too. all the return spring does is take up the pedal free travel so that the weight of the pedal doesn't push the M/C pushrod against the M/C piston. In my experience, if the pedal is not returning to the end point of free travel without the aid of the upper return spring, then there is a problem in the hydraulic circuit.


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Old March 4th, 2009, 03:28 PM
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My pedal is a series pedal I guess that isn't normal.
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Old March 6th, 2009, 04:52 PM
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I had to check and my brake and clutch both have a series style square pedal pad. and the clutch tower is the old series type not the nice fancy new one.

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My pedal is a series pedal I guess that isn't normal.
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My pedal is a series pedal I guess that isn't normal.
yeah same as mine-early 110's used the same stuff as series 3's
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As did NAS 110s.
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As did NAS 110s.
COOL So I have the same pedals as one of those 70K trucks my trucks value just went up
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Am I missing a spring here? Where exactly does the second spring go to? Does it attach to the eye that i circled in blue?

I've been having an issue with my clutch for a while now where the pedal will get "stuck" at the very bottom of it's travel. It only happens sometimes and it's difficult to pinpoint a cause, but when it would get stuck it seemed that the friction point on the clutch would be much lower too. Anyway, I bleed the system last night and the clutch seems better now. It has very nice even travel and the friction is solidly where it is supposed to be. However i am still having the pedal stick at the very bottom on occasion.

I tend to think this a spring issue since once the pedal gets past the stuck point it engages and swings like normal.

Ron, which spring was it that you recently bought?
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 01:35 PM
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Mike, that is why I recommend using the second spring.

Mine has a tab welded on the middle of the pedal shaft (maybe not the "middle" exactly, probably more like where you circled) and the spring runs up to a mount on the top of the six bolts where it goes.

I bought this spring. http://www.roversdownsouth.com/series-brakes.htm

569701, which is the fat one on the top of the picture. (Due to be being an idiot, I have five spares which I will pass out at MAR or I can ship you one now).

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Old April 2nd, 2009, 02:25 PM
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Thanks for confirming that Ron. Where does your spring attach to on the top end? Is there a preexisting mount or did you fabricate something?
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ON my 1994 I cut down the mount from a series truck (see linked thread), on my 1995 and my NAS 110 remains, there was a mount already there. It is hiding behind the trim so I am not sure what it looks like, but an oversized washed that is bent with a hole in it would likley work.

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Old April 2nd, 2009, 02:49 PM
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Well I'll be... i found the little mount sticking out from behind one of those bolts. I never noticed that before and I didn't realize how big this spring has to be. I'm gonna give RDS a call and get a spring in the mail asap. I just want to make sure this is going to do the trick so that if it doesn't work I've still got enough time to order new master/slave cylinders etc in time to get them in for the uwharrie safari.

May also check at lowes (or other hardware store) to see if they have somthing similar
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