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Old December 18th, 2008, 02:28 PM
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I merged it with the other thread about the same topic and it went to the wrong destination section of the forum - thanks for noticing it and pointing it out.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 02:44 PM
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No prob. I just wanted to make sure that I had posted it correctly to begin with.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Here is the response I got about it having a clutch pedal


"we thought it would be an easier sell in the US with the auto.... The 90's sell better with the auto. It can be changed back."


130 grand and converted to an auto. Now we know why it is special. I was going to put my 110 back to a manual but I think I will just sell it for $100k since it is an auto and should be much easier to sell.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 03:12 PM
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Here is the response I got about it having a clutch pedal


"we thought it would be an easier sell in the US with the auto.... The 90's sell better with the auto. It can be changed back."


130 grand and converted to an auto. Now we know why it is special. I was going to put my 110 back to a manual but I think I will just sell it for $100k since it is an auto and should be much easier to sell.
So, I don't know a ton about pricing 110's north of 1993 (even 1993's, too), so what should this be priced at?
$35,000? $50,000? And since you'd probably be taking a risk on this ending up in the impound lot, shouldn't it get discounted because of that? I mean, you're not buying a Mclaren F1 here.. it's not *that* exclusive. What does everyone think? Is this guy insane or just trying to bluff his way into an absurd price?
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Old December 18th, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Old December 18th, 2008, 03:53 PM
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I tried to buy that car last year at a GSA sale in DC when it was in pieces but it brought crazy money. it wont be seized because the government built a title for it and sold it themselves.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 04:05 PM
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I tried to buy that car last year at a GSA sale in DC when it was in pieces but it brought crazy money. it wont be seized because the government built a title for it and sold it themselves.
So it sounds like a Nixonian-type issue.. if the government does it, it's somehow ok. Regardless of whether it's against the current laws. LOL.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 04:08 PM
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IMO that truck is not worth more than $35k. And that price would only be good if somehow it was titled legitimately as a 2002. One thing I do not like about it is that its a two door. I just would much rather have the four doors. But someone out there probably will pay north of 35k for it. I think it may bring in the 50's.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 04:13 PM
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thats the wonderful thing about our government. i would say in the past 12 years ive been in the land rover scene, ive seen no less than 10 non nas trucks that have government replacement vins or titles.
ive never seen a squashed defender...and why would they squash it if all they have to do is title it and sell it back to us for crazy money?
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Old December 18th, 2008, 04:46 PM
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Old December 18th, 2008, 05:52 PM
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and why would they squash it if all they have to do is title it and sell it back to us for crazy money?
Well, that's my issue. If it's somehow against EPA/DOT/NHTSA regulations, what is the governments motivation to retitle and resell? If a newer LR is considered "unsafe" for U.S. use by whatever existing laws, how can they do it?

Hope I'm not opening up a discussion that has been covered 100x times before.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 09:06 PM
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Dude- You are preaching to the choir!! The FBI is always importing NEW 110's and having armor plating work done to them. They circumvent the "law" by having them shipped in parts and then reassembled.
Why then (is the cosmic quest) if a truck is good enough for our (we the people) employees (since we do employee the FBI ... they are paid from our tax dollars!), then why is it not good enough for us?

Any way, the price is not way off for what I have heard being kicked around about trucks of this mystic. The real killer on this truck is that it is a 3 door.
The only dog about the auto tranny is that with a TDi, that truck is going to go from 0-60 in like a minute and a half!!

I don't know, ... any how ... bet it sells for over 90K anyway. Some rich rancher in Montana will probably purchase it and never even register it. He'll just use it to traverse his 10,000 acre ranch and haul grain and hunting gear.

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Old December 18th, 2008, 09:24 PM
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the truck sold for 31000 but it was in parts so theres no teliing what they paid to put it together. i like 3 doors but they dont bring the money of a 5 door.
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Well if it started as a pallet of parts as Tim says and the guy left a clutch pedal in situ and built an automatic truck- I wouldn't even want to see the rest of his work. Its just too simple to remove that pedal bucket and cover the hole with a riveted or welded on plate. I'd say that's a major "telltale" of the quality of workmanship to be encountered.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM
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not to get off the subject but i have a 110 that is RHD and i want 2 make it LHD. any advice on where to send it and how much?
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Tim- shoot me an email
I have done a couple.
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Well if it started as a pallet of parts as Tim says and the guy left a clutch pedal in situ and built an automatic truck- I wouldn't even want to see the rest of his work. Its just too simple to remove that pedal bucket and cover the hole with a riveted or welded on plate. I'd say that's a major "telltale" of the quality of workmanship to be encountered.
Just out of my own curiosity (and the fact that I love the 110's and will get one eventually), I wrote to the seller via Ebay. I asked him what the deal was with the legality of the car and you can see his answer below.. Which is a clear indicator that whoever wins this vehicle will probably have myriad unknown issues with which to wrangle. Good times:

"Dear advantagemotorsusa,

How is this vehicle legal in the U.S.? How was it legally registered in the U.S.?


- smob"

"Dear smob,

That I can't tell you. What I can tell you is that it is registered & it is legal! Good luck bidding.

- advantagemotorsusa



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I thought 300 Tdi motors mated with an automatic required an ECU, i.e. so the motor knows the shift points.
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I thought 300 Tdi motors mated with an automatic required an ECU, i.e. so the motor knows the shift points.
No, only the discovery auto Tdi's had ETC (electronic throttle control), gave about 120bhp to accomoate the losses from the autobox.

Some Defenders (and pre ETC) disco's did have EGR...exhaust gas recycling, a valve on the exhaust manifold that allowed the exgaist gas to be re-burnt by the engine, this did have an ECU fitted (on defenders, in between the seats) but if you unplugged it, the engine still ran.

most people over here just remove the whole lot and bin it.
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7 bids so far, still 100K below is buy it now price ...
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