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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:11 PM
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Ha no but he's said a few times that he's looking for super low miles - I can't think of too many around here that deal pretty much exclusively in super low miles. I was also going to say that if he thinks he doesn't get much value from these Copley cars, it's probably because you don't really "get much value" when you're looking at a super low miles truck. The value comes from getting a solid truck that has actually been driven a bit, and not paying a premium for a truck that someone has bought low and is looking to sell high. (But it was long winded)
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:35 PM
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Don't know what it really is, but it came into the country in August of 2011. Foley was the shipper.

On the import information The truck was described as,

"COMPRISING: 1 X 1986 LANDROVER DEFENDER 90 SOFT TOP REG: C290 SPG CHASSIS: SALLDVAC7AA252770"
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:15 PM
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OK so then this for only $5k more on the asking price. No questions as to "hey it says xx year but it looks like a different year" and it has the ultra low miles you're looking for.

http://copleymotorcars.com/land_rover5_35.3vo914.html
Yes, I have already viewed the full set of pictures and I'm waiting for more info on the details of this truck after it gets back from being serviced.

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... but he's said a few times that he's looking for super low miles... The value comes from getting a solid truck that has actually been driven a bit, and not paying a premium for a truck that someone has bought low and is looking to sell high.
I don't have to have super low miles. I'm definitely not against a well-maintained truck with a fair amount of miles on it. Actually, the more I learn from searching & reading here, the more I am scared away from something with low miles. I don't want to pay a premium for super low miles, then be faced with things like head gasket problems & cooling issues.

My biggest requirement is that the truck must be rust-free. No rust. None. Seems that east coast vehicles either have some rust issue(s) or have super low miles from only being driven on nice days.

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Don't know what it really is, but it came into the country in August of 2011. Foley was the shipper.

On the import information The truck was described as,

"COMPRISING: 1 X 1986 LANDROVER DEFENDER 90 SOFT TOP REG: C290 SPG CHASSIS: SALLDVAC7AA252770"
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:30 PM
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...no galv frame...
Looking at the pictures, I noticed that the rear tub mounting tabs are concealed. I'm assuming (maybe incorrectly) that this vehicle has a new chassis, and if you were going to put a new chassis under this vehicle it would almost certainly be galvanized.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:09 PM
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Probably new cross member and a load of paint to hide its sins.
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I guess I just don't really see what all you're getting here for $50k - no galv frame, no NAS cage, no NAS vin, crappy paint, and a TD5 dash (and probably engine). I'd rather have this:

http://copleymotorcars.com/land_rover5_35.3vo916.html
I have to agree with you on this one. To be honest, I would rather a UK model. I like the tdi engine. Good on fuel. Plus, I would hate a automatic tranny.

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Old January 6th, 2013, 08:04 AM
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RMR has owned several of these "interesting" defenders.

The $100k+ Puma 90 on eBay was theirs. It came into the U.S. in the same container as this "1986". They also have a 130 listed as pending on their site which was imported as a 110.

RMR uses a registered importer that knows the rules so I have to imagine that these trucks are arriving in original condition. RMR should be able to tell you what they did to the truck and why the fuel fill is wrong.

My question is why do they have to wait for the truck to come back from being serviced to answer your questions? Do they have to ask the truck how old it is?
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Old January 6th, 2013, 10:15 AM
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They also have a 130 listed as pending on their site which was imported as a 110.
I have not seen the vehicle in question, but early 127/130s reflect "110" model in their vin since they used a 110 frame and modified it (at the factory) for the 127/130s.
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http://rmr4x4.com/web/1178/vehicle/7...Defender%20130

The vin is salldhac7ba245576. The vin decoder I've used says that the numbers are consistent after 1979 - i.e. a 130 has a K in the wheelbase code after that year. Is that wishful thinking?
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Old January 6th, 2013, 10:57 AM
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http://rmr4x4.com/web/1178/vehicle/7...Defender%20130

The vin is salldhac7ba245576. The vin decoder I've used says that the numbers are consistent after 1979 - i.e. a 130 has a K in the wheelbase code after that year. Is that wishful thinking?
That is not correct I'm pretty sure...127/130s didn't start until 1983 and definitely were vin'd as 110s for at least 5+ years after that (i.e. no "K" in the wheelbase code until maybe late 80s, but more likely early/mid 90s). From wiki:

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From 1983 Land Rover introduced a third wheelbase to its utility line-up, a 127-inch (3,226 mm) twin-axle vehicle designed to accommodate larger, heavier loads than the One Ten. Called the Land Rover 127, it was designed specifically with use by utility and electrical companies in mind, as well as military usage.[4] In its standard form it is a four-door six-seater consisting of the front half of a One Ten Station Wagon, and the rear of a One Ten High-Capacity Pick Up (HCPU). The logic was that this allowed a workcrew and their equipment to be carried in one vehicle at the same time. The 127 could carry up to a 1.4 tonnes (1.4 long tons; 1.5 short tons) payload, compared to the 1.03 tonnes (1.01 long tons; 1.14 short tons) payload of the One Ten and the 0.6 tonnes (0.59 long ton; 0.66 short ton) of the Ninety.
127s were built on a special production line, and all started life as One Ten Station Wagon chassis (the model was initially marketed as the One Ten Crew Cab, before the more logical 127 name was adopted). These were then cut in two and the 17 inches (432 mm) of extra chassis length welded on before the two original halves were reunited. 127s did not receive their own dedicated badging like the other two models, instead they used the same metal grille badges as used on the Series III 109 V8 models, that simply said Land-Rover.
Although the standard body-style was popular, the 127 was a popular basis for conversion to specialist uses, such as mobile workshops, ambulances, fire engines or even flatbed transports. In South Africa, the Land Rover assembly plant there offered a 127 Station Wagon with seating for 15. Land Rover also offered the 127 as a bare chassis, with just front bodywork and bulkhead, for easy conversion.
Initially held back by the low power of the Land Rover engines (other than the thirsty petrol V8 engine), the 127 benefited from the improvements to the line-up, and by 1990 was only available with the two highest power engines, the 134 hp (100 kW) 3.5-litre V8 petrol, and the 85 hp (63 kW) 2.5-litre Diesel Turbo.
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Or you could buy my Ex MoD 90 for 15k, put another 35K into it and have exactly what you want. Besides NATO green is just cool.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 12:39 PM
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My question is why do they have to wait for the truck to come back from being serviced to answer your questions?
If you are referring to the 32k mile white NAS D90 ST at Copley, I asked for a bunch of detailed pictures of all the usual rust areas. The vehicle was off being serviced, so Keith said he would take more pictures when it came back. Can't ask for much more than that.
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I just had a nice conversation with Tim at RMR. Seems like a really neat vehicle. I'm going to be traveling to Talladega tomorrow and I may try to take a look at this vehicle if time permits.

My only concern is the 300tdi, since I've never owned a diesel.
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Apologies. I thought you were referring to the RMR vehicle being serviced.
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Actually, plasti-dipping is now legitimate for matte finishes. It's applied using a cheap electric HVLP and quart cans of plasti-dip.

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Agreed, it is quite legitimate. I did my S60R, and I'll be doing my DII soon, not sure what color yet but possibly Matte Desert Sand. The Volvo was in gunmetal. It's really an amazing finish, and when I get tired of it I'll peel it off.
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I just had a nice conversation with Tim at RMR. Seems like a really neat vehicle. I'm going to be traveling to Talladega tomorrow and I may try to take a look at this vehicle if time permits.

My only concern is the 300tdi, since I've never owned a diesel.
The 300tdi is much better than the POS v8.
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