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Old March 4th, 2013, 11:35 PM
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Ethan.

That sounds great but definitely way beyond my ability. I have an upgraded full sized Allard Intercooler that sits in front of the radiator. I intend to keep an eye on it with my digital EGT. I am curious of the outcome of my ceramic coating experiment.
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When you have it on the road I am very interested to hear your thoughts on if the VNT upgrades the performance enough to justify the cost. I have been checking every real world review I can find.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 02:05 PM
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Will do. I'll post a review here. I track milage so I am curious about the increase in fuel economy as well. I hope to have it buttoned up this weekend.
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I look forward to reading it
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Question about priming the turbo.
Turbo oil goes in at engine pressure. It drains out at crankcase pressure. That's why you don't see anything coming out of the turbo when you drop a few drops of oil in there.

Spin the turbine wheel by hand a few times. Crank the engine to build up oil pressure with the fuel stop solenoid engaged. That should be enough to prime the turbo.
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It's a great project, and I'm sure you will notice a difference. Just wait until you hear your truck whistle while it is idling! I can't wait to read your reaction!
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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:49 AM
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I can't wait.

Two hoses arrive in the mail tomorrow and I should be ready to button it up. One hose was missing from the kit and the other was too short and much too large.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:49 AM
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Turbo oil goes in at engine pressure. It drains out at crankcase pressure. That's why you don't see anything coming out of the turbo when you drop a few drops of oil in there.

Spin the turbine wheel by hand a few times. Crank the engine to build up oil pressure with the fuel stop solenoid engaged. That should be enough to prime the turbo.
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The "afterburner" effect is cool too

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It's a great project, and I'm sure you will notice a difference. Just wait until you hear your truck whistle while it is idling! I can't wait to read your reaction!
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Whats the afterburner effect?

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Old March 6th, 2013, 03:46 PM
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Oh, it's a bonus which comes when the VNT starts pushing...you'll feel it.








(WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Old March 10th, 2013, 10:18 PM
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Great news! I finally finished the install and although I haven't driven it yet everything seems to be in order at start up.

Only real catch so far is that the kit doesn't seem to fit well between the turbo and intercooler. I suspect that the kit was designed for stock intercooler. I have full width Allard and I wonder if the intercooler pipe is in a different location on it. As you can see the pipe when installed is rubbing the alternator. I was going to order the TD5 Intercooler hose but first I need to verify that the ID is the same. If it is then that should do the trick in clearing the alternator. If anyone has a TD5 intercooler hose handy can you tell me what the ID is? It should be the same, right?

Another thing I don't like about the kit is the bizarre assembly between air intake and turbo. At a closer look there is no need for the kink on the steel pipe. The kink causes it to push into the alternator. Also no need for four parts. I'm pretty certain it could be done with two parts. I'm going to have a custom steel pipe bent up that is straight with a 90 degree bend at one end to replace the steel pipe, the silicone "patch" and the cast alu 90 degree elbow. This should provide a better fit with less parts.
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How did you settle on this VNT kit? Had you looked at many others? I am looking at this one as it uses half of the existing exhaust manifold and sits in the same place as the original:

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/produc...vnt-vgt-turbo/

And is almost half price because an entire new manifold is not needed!
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Old March 11th, 2013, 10:53 AM
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Also this one from Allisport....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251189664623...84.m1423.l2649

"Our VNT is designed to be a direct replacement for the original requiring no mods to the car."

From the eBay ad, it doesn't mention the manifold horns, unlike Bells ad.



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I really wanted to hear about the change in driveability and no one has posted any real specifics. Carls truck has been apart so long he probably won't have much of a point of reference anymore.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 11:28 AM
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Hey there! I'll post something on here soon. I would have been done weeks ago if all the correct parts had been included in the kit. Now for the second time I have to order more silicone hoses from the UK in order to get a correct fit.

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Old March 11th, 2013, 11:35 AM
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Frankly I didn't really research the different kits in too much detail. This one was already in the US so I went for it. I generally prefer to replace as many parts as possible to new (when it makes sense). The old manifold was rusty and I knew I wanted to coat mine so I'm happy getting a new one.

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How did you settle on this VNT kit? Had you looked at many others? I am looking at this one as it uses half of the existing exhaust manifold and sits in the same place as the original:

http://bellautoservices.co.uk/produc...vnt-vgt-turbo/

And is almost half price because an entire new manifold is not needed!
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Old March 11th, 2013, 11:46 AM
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I probably spent two hours trying to wrestle the intercooler hoses into place. No way it will work with current hoses included in the kit. As installed the alternator was grinding a hole in the metal tube. I'm looking for a S shaped silicone hose of same diameter to replace the blue one pictured. Recommendations are appreciated.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Nice kit.

I like the heat shield on the oil drain fitting.

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Also this one from Allisport....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251189664623...84.m1423.l2649

"Our VNT is designed to be a direct replacement for the original requiring no mods to the car."

From the eBay ad, it doesn't mention the manifold horns, unlike Bells ad.



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Also this one from Allisport....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251189664623...84.m1423.l2649

"Our VNT is designed to be a direct replacement for the original requiring no mods to the car."

From the eBay ad, it doesn't mention the manifold horns, unlike Bells ad.



thanks.

Looks nearly identical, uses the same half exhaust manifold as the bell unit.
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