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Old September 30th, 2010, 11:31 AM
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Bumping for info/confirmation for 300TDI

Planning on switching over to VDO gauges at some point in the future, so I wanted to get confirmation on part numbers for a 300TDI before I start ordering them from egauges.com. I gathered all of the info here from different threads on the board, but wanted to confirmation on components where I've seen conflicting info.

Could the experts confirm/comments on the choices? Hopefully this will be useful to others in the future as well. Any and all help is great appreciated.

Water Temp Gauge
VDO Part Number: 310-105
Product Description: 2 1/16 250F Engine Temp. - Elec. Vision Black

Water Temp Sender
VDO Part Number: 323-095
Product Description: Temperature Sender: 250F/120C - 1/8-27 NPT -

Oil Temp Gauge
VDO Part Number: 310-106
Product Description: 2 1/16 300F Engine Temp. - Elec. Vision Black

Oil Temp Sender
VDO Part Number: 323-057
Product Description: Temperature Sender: 300F/150C - 1/8-27 NPT -

Oil Pressure Gauge
VDO Part Number: 350-104
Product Description: 2 1/16 80 PSI Engine Press. - Elec. Vision Black

Oil Pressure Sender
VDO Part Number: 360-009
Product Description: Pressure Sender: 0-80 PSI/5 Bar - 1/8-27 NPT - 7.0 PSI
QUESTION: Use 360-006 instead? I've seen both senders being mentioned.

Fuel Gauge
VDO Part Number: 301-105
Product Description: 2 1/16 for 240-33 Ohm sender Fuel level Vision Black

Fuel Gauge Sender
QUESTION: Can I use the stock 300TDI sender? If not, what should I use?

Speedometer
VDO Part Number: 437-155
Product Description: 4 120 MPH Speedometer Vision Black

Speedometer Sender
VDO Part Number: 340-011
Product Description: Speedometer Sender: Standard, GM - -

Tachometer
VDO Part Number: 333-158
Product Description: 2 1/16 6,000 RPM Tach - Electric Vision Black
QUESTION: Use 4000 RPM Tach (PN: 333-156) instead?

EGT Gauge
VDO Part Number: 310-153
Product Description: 2 1/16 250F-1650F Pyrometer / EGT Vision Black

Clock
VDO Part Number: 370-100B
Product Description: 2 1/16 Clock Vision Black
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Old September 30th, 2010, 07:12 PM
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Fuel Gauge Sender
QUESTION: Can I use the stock 300TDI sender? If not, what should I use?

Speedometer
VDO Part Number: 437-155
Product Description: 4 120 MPH Speedometer Vision Black

Speedometer Sender
VDO Part Number: 340-011
Product Description: Speedometer Sender: Standard, GM - -

Tachometer
VDO Part Number: 333-158
Product Description: 2 1/16 6,000 RPM Tach - Electric Vision Black
QUESTION: Use 4000 RPM Tach (PN: 333-156) instead?
Yes, stock sender works great on the fuel.

You need a VSS from either a Disco 1 or a TD5 Defender, not the 340-011 shown above. Used Disco 1 is the cheap, easy way...

I think 4000 rpm is fine.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 09:32 PM
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Yes, stock sender works great on the fuel.

You need a VSS from either a Disco 1 or a TD5 Defender, not the 340-011 shown above. Used Disco 1 is the cheap, easy way...

I think 4000 rpm is fine.
Thanks for the input. Any thoughts on the sender for the Oil Pressure Gauge? I found a bunch of references to Part Number 360-009, but then I saw a JimC post that says use 360-006 that has me confused.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 10:42 PM
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No idea. You need someone that has actually tried. It is more than the connection type, but the clearance as well. The pressure senders are quite large. I think if you read around on the UK forums, no stock VDO sender fits right on. Adapters are required.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 11:46 PM
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I'm not sure any more - egauges.com has change the part numbers for oil pressure senders and I don't have easy access to my RoverRecords to check what the distinction used to be...
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Old October 1st, 2010, 08:07 AM
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I'm not sure any more - egauges.com has change the part numbers for oil pressure senders and I don't have easy access to my RoverRecords to check what the distinction used to be...
Thanks for chiming in JimC - I might as well get both senders and see which one fits.
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Old November 4th, 2010, 08:17 PM
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Water Temp Sender
VDO Part Number: 323-095
Product Description: Temperature Sender: 250F/120C - 1/8-27 NPT
What kind of funny electrical connector is that ?
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What kind of funny electrical connector is that ?
A normal socketed (female) part of a crimp on blade connector will slide right on.
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What kind of funny electrical connector is that ?

Regular spade connector slides right over it.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 05:05 PM
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thanks guys, there is always a first time
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Old November 30th, 2010, 08:09 AM
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anyone noticed that the VDO voltmeter gauge is quite inaccurate ?
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anyone noticed that the VDO voltmeter gauge is quite inaccurate ?
I actually thought mine was doing pretty well. Maybe check your ground connection?

I installed mine on the accessory (2nd) battery of my dual battery setup and the gauge will read approximately 12V when the solenoid on the controller is not engaged and immediately jumps to approximately 14V when engaged

As a side note, I have noticed that my fuel gauge seems to bounce more than I expected but I have heard that is typically a sender issue, not a gauge issue
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i have a good ground and a good positive, i checked it with a DMM, the thing is just inaccurate i guess. I'm trying to find a digital volmeter gauge that won't look too weird compare to VDO.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 08:16 PM
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There are some round digital ones. http://www.egauges.com/eg_typeI.asp?...r=All&Manf=All

If you do not need round, there are various choices for digital rectangular ones.

In my opinion, certain instruments should be digital. Voltmeters and EGT gauges are ones that should be digital. You want a precise number at a high part of the range.
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How are the lights on the VDO Vision Black gauges that you installed. Brighter than stock?
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Many, many times brighter. The dials are through lit and the needles are lit as well. You need to dim the lighting or it is too bright.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 09:28 AM
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Well, that seals the deal for me. I'm replacing them. I was in the middle of swapping our the dash bulbs for LEDs when I got to the speedo cluster. LEDs are brighter for sure, I just don't like how the stock speedo, fuel gauge, temp,etc are backlit. They suck no matter what type of light source you have.

Are the VDOs LED? What color are they?

If I just swap out the stock dials do I need to swap out the senders for each?

When replacing the speedo, is it possible to calibrate it to have it read more accurate? Mine is about 12% off due to different gearing.
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The stock VDO lights are not LED, but you can get them. Stock bulbs are white. You can get whatever colours you want or use diffusers to change colour. Try them first. They are too bright without dimming...

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_agrp.asp?..._Bulbs_Sockets
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I know this has been covered. I just need some clarification. If I decide to swap out just the stock gauges and senders, is this the correct list of part numbers? Do I need a new tach sender? If so what part# is it? Where can I get a new VSS sender for the speedo? Am I missing anything on my list? Thanks in advance.

Water Temp Gauge $24.95 - VDO Part Number: 310-105
Water Temp Sender $6.50 - VDO Part Number: 323-095
Fuel Gauge $24.95 - VDO Part Number: 301-105
Fuel Gauge sender: Can I use existing 300tdi sender?
Speedometer $268.30 - VDO Part Number: 437-155
Speedo Sender: Where can I buy a new TD5 VSS sender?
Tachometer $74.95 - VDO Part Number: 333-156
Tach Sender? New or use existing? If new, what part#?
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Old December 15th, 2010, 08:19 PM
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Tach runs from the alternator. I would suggest picking up a laser non-contact tach to set it up. They are pretty cheap.

VSS part from any normal Rover parts supplier. Cheapest route is a used unit from a Disco 1. New ones are pricey.

Yes, existing fuel sender works well.
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