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Old December 15th, 2014, 03:30 PM
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I had Truck Lites in my jeep. Output was good, but I recently got a pair of Morimoto Sealed7s from the retrofit source and they're head and shoulders better than the truck lights and hopefully they won't ice up in the snow. More work, but more customizable too.
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Old December 15th, 2014, 04:11 PM
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There are other options as well for proper HIDs and obviously they will be better light, but they are still quite a bit more pricey.

Here are the Hella ones: http://www.rallylights.com/all/light...headlamps.html Looks like the Morimitos are a lot cheaper if you by all the parts and assemble yourself. No idea if they are the same quality level as the Hellas.
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Old December 16th, 2014, 01:42 AM
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It looks like the Truck-Lite LED headlamps do meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) 108 requirements, so that's cool. I was planning on going with HID's but then I got educated by Daniel Stern. Turns out it's hard to beat good halogens, so that's what I'm sticking with.

Daniel Stern's HID conversions info: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html

Daniel Stern info on HID and LED lighting: http://www.searchautoparts.com/after...q-daniel-stern

Washington state explains that the NHTSA declared that it's impossible for HID conversions to meet FMVSS 108 requirements (applicable for any state that has adopted the federal standard): http://www.wsp.wa.gov/traveler/pasfaqs.htm
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It looks like the Truck-Lite LED headlamps do meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) 108 requirements, so that's cool. I was planning on going with HID's but then I got educated by Daniel Stern. Turns out it's hard to beat good halogens, so that's what I'm sticking with. Daniel Stern's HID conversions info: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html Daniel Stern info on HID and LED lighting: http://www.searchautoparts.com/after...q-daniel-stern Washington state explains that the NHTSA declared that it's impossible for HID conversions to meet FMVSS 108 requirements (applicable for any state that has adopted the federal standard): http://www.wsp.wa.gov/traveler/pasfaqs.htm
I think he's talking about good halogens in vehicles with regular headlights rather than the LED's available for trucks and defenders in the standard 7" format.

There are pro and con for each. LED headlights out perform any halogen combo I've ever tried in my truck and at 1/3 current draw. The downside is the potential snow accumulation due to them not generating heat. I'm being encouraged to travel to winter romp so il be able to report at that time.
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I think he's talking about good halogens in vehicles with regular headlights rather than the LED's available for trucks and defenders in the standard 7" format.

There are pro and con for each. LED headlights out perform any halogen combo I've ever tried in my truck and at 1/3 current draw. The downside is the potential snow accumulation due to them not generating heat. I'm being encouraged to travel to winter romp so il be able to report at that time.
Yeah probably. I love LED's. That's definitely where things are headed, but I'd still like to see some NHTSA tests comparing them to halogen such as how well detail can be resolved at distance down the road and glare produced. Has Truck-Lite published their results or what they have on file with the DOT? I agree that heated ones are the way to go.
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There is a massive comparison thread on another forum where a guy has done testing on every 7" Light in the world. I'm sure Google will find it for you.
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There is a massive comparison thread on another forum where a guy has done testing on every 7" Light in the world. I'm sure Google will find it for you.

It's the jkowners headlight comparison
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I don't have any trouble with snow on ANY of my headlights..what is this SNOW you guys keep talking of..????
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I don't have any trouble with snow on ANY of my headlights..what is this SNOW you guys keep talking of..????
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It's the jkowners headlight comparison
Hmm, he basically just shown them on his garage door (assuming I found the correct one). Doesn't really help me much. I guess what really concerns me is how bright they look to other motorists. There's nothing I can't stand more than some jerk coming up behind me and blinding me in my mirrors with his ultra bright lights. I think the best lights would be brightest as possible for the driver but not blinding other drivers.
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Hmm, he basically just shown them on his garage door (assuming I found the correct one). Doesn't really help me much. I guess what really concerns me is how bright they look to other motorists. There's nothing I can't stand more than some jerk coming up behind me and blinding me in my mirrors with his ultra bright lights. I think the best lights would be brightest as possible for the driver but not blinding other drivers.
The cut off on the trucklites is excellent.

If they are properly adjusted you'll not be dazzling anyone.
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I don't have any trouble with snow on ANY of my headlights..what is this SNOW you guys keep talking of..????
Bet you don't have any problems with the heat in a Defender either........
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Hmm, he basically just shown them on his garage door (assuming I found the correct one). Doesn't really help me much. I guess what really concerns me is how bright they look to other motorists. There's nothing I can't stand more than some jerk coming up behind me and blinding me in my mirrors with his ultra bright lights. I think the best lights would be brightest as possible for the driver but not blinding other drivers.
No here: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/h...otout-1166827/
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A good summary of his thoughts, at least two years ago. http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...95#post1169795

And some more up to date thoughts: http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...20#post1729920
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