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Old September 9th, 2009, 10:10 PM
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Talking Rover trailer

I guess there is no going back, so it's time to start a build thread on this sucker.

First, I'm doing this mainly because I want to (not the easiest/cheapest way etc.), so it may not make sense to you

I've decided to drive the trans america trail in the future (sooner than later) and for that I'll want a trailer I could take offroad (like an adventure trailer/chaser, but we'll see how it turns out), maybe add a RTT etc. But I wanted to make it out of a rover tub. Yeah the whole trailer matching truck thing is gay (especially if painted the same color) but hey.. I'm comfortable with my manhood and there is nothing wrong with being gay anyway. LOL.

Doug C provided the inspiration by finding a picture of one someone made with a rover roof as a cap/top, as well as other things like Mike Slade's chuckwagon, but Greg B. got the ball rolling by alerting me to a craigslist posting for a 109" tub since he knew I was looking.

A few short months later I have most of the parts needed sourced (and most in my hands) thanks to the good folks here. I had intended to build my own frame but got a deal on a bent D90 frame so I went that route, including a defender rear suspension. I have started to stretch the rear of the frame 14" and 3/8s to make the 109" tub fit.

Anyway, I'm putting build pictures under here. I might not post too many directly to the forum as it's a hassle to resize etc.

http://lhsw.com/gallery/rover_trailer
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:39 PM
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Got the stretch completed today.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:45 PM
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Are those the pieces of the RRC frame I gave to you with janey?
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:47 PM
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Damn you have a good eye! Yessir. Meant to thank you for em too, but glad you noticed and reminded me. THANKS!
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Old September 12th, 2009, 09:57 PM
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Looks like a great project. Gonna get it done before Uwharrie in October?

Why not leave the diff in it... Then you could have a spare, as well as use it with alternator to power a battery, fridge and etc.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 01:58 AM
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Damn you have a good eye! Yessir. Meant to thank you for em too, but glad you noticed and reminded me. THANKS!
Ha, only I can remember what two dirty pieces of metal I saw last three years ago look like. No problem, I figured they had some use even if not for a "ron good" rear crossmember repair.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 11:51 AM
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Yeah these are the times I love the fact I'm a pack rat. They were an almost perfect fit for this job so out of the scrap pile they came.

Scott, don't know if it'll be done by then, or if I'll go to Uhwarrie. I guess I need to look at a calendar but my gut tells me my wife won't be keen on me going

As for the diff, i had considered it but

1. I have 2 trucks and 3 different diffs already and hope to throw a series in the mix at some point too. Pointless trying to choose which diff to carry.

2. More weight when you don't need the spares all the time

3. Less clearance.

4. This housing was dirt cheap

So I'm going to go with clearancing this diff and see how it goes. The beauty of this setup is I can always put another axle under it if I change my mind.

I had not thought of an alternator, but I think that's pushing it for me. I want this thing to be stupid simple and bullet proof, and then add toys later.

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Old September 14th, 2009, 07:52 PM
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Charles,
Looking good. I've got a couple of 88" roofs if you need one.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Oh now you tell me! I have already bought 2 of them!

See you at the MAR man.
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Old September 19th, 2009, 12:44 PM
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Got the suspension under it today (minus the shocks).

Next up is to find some help to get the tub on it so I can make some mounts/standoffs and then figure out what to do for the tongue.
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Old September 19th, 2009, 02:50 PM
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Sexy

Test fitting the tub reveals I need to move one of the the support ribs forward an inch or two to clear the crossmember as it's about 1/4" too high at that point when sitting on the cross member. Otherwise it validates the stretch was the right amount!

This is going to have a really high center of gravity, but not much I can do about it I suppose. The suspension is really supple with it unladen like this. Just sitting on the rear lowers it a few inches.

Anyway, here she is
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Old September 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM
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Charles,

That looks great! You need a "defendoor" now.

BTW, I have a set of white glossy wheel arches, maybe they are for the rear, I can't remember. They are yours if you want them.
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Old September 19th, 2009, 07:38 PM
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So cool. Gonna be red?
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Another tailgate?
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That looks great! You need a "defendoor" now.
Huh, how about that. They think of everything don't they. Sounds like a goods christmas present to myself, but you'll see mine is blanked off already. Might use it to fill water tanks or something too.
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BTW, I have a set of white glossy wheel arches, maybe they are for the rear, I can't remember. They are yours if you want them.
I'm told the 109 cutout is a different shape than the defenders, but if they will work I'll take you up on it as the wheels do extend out about an inch or two past the body.

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So cool. Gonna be red?
Nope. Leading colors are your sand color (you'll need to remind me what the proper name is), or white.

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Another tailgate?
I thought you were sending me another one?

I have to decide whether or not to hinge down, or sideways. This tub has the catches for both (well, i guess the side catch is for a full door so will need replacing), but the rear cross member doesn't have the hinge mounts so I'd need to add them to do hinge down. Locking may be more of a hassle with hinge down too. Kind of leaning towards a side hinge and tire carrier to get some weight off the tongue. This thing is a monster and sits as high as my D90 (which has a 2" spring lift).
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Old September 21st, 2009, 05:20 PM
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put the tire somewhere else. but side hinge is easier to load. drop gates are good for sitting on though.

looks amazing! nice work!


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Kind of leaning towards a side hinge and tire carrier to get some weight off the tongue. This thing is a monster and sits as high as my D90 (which has a 2" spring lift).
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Old September 21st, 2009, 05:30 PM
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The reason for the tire on the rear was to reduce tongue weight as right now it's a bit heavy I think.

But after pulling the transmission cross-member and finding it totally rusted out underneath the pads, I'm not sure how much of the original frame I can reuse for the tongue. It's also tweaked pretty badly as well of course. But getting a nice transition from 3x7 rails to a custom tongue is going to be tricky too.

Anyway, this will likely lighten the tongue weight though so I'm thinking I need to mock the tongue up better and re-weigh it before making a decision on any other placement. You'd think with so many fixed variables figuring out the tongue length and shape would be easy! I am currently targeting about 100" from the coupler to the trailer axle. This length (a compromise of the D90 and D110 wheelbase) is supposed to help the trailer track the vehicle well, and will allow the tongue to be long enough to allow a 90 degree jacknife without hitting the tub.

Still going to try get this towable by MAR but it's looking like a tough goal at this point.
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2cents, I vaguely remember that diy off road show on spike tv that they did a build up of different trailers. Was when they still had that blond welder chick cohosting.
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You can reduce the tongue weight by putting a fresh water tank where the 109 fuel tank was.
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