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Old October 24th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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Yes, this is putting two series roofs together. Each of the 3 choices requires 2 roofs to make. Dave - yes I'd like to put roof racks and a RTT on it. I have racks, just need to make custom feet. The drip trail will be lined with a cargo tie-down system and the racks will lock in to that.

#2 Is the easiest because the ends are already flat. But I think it looks Dorky so I've pretty much ruled it out.

Still torn on the other two, but the job is similar for both but #3 being a bit more work since it's two boxed ends and is compounded by the fact that one of my donor roofs has damage on the rear (i wasn't expecting to need both rears). I like the idea of more space, but think the front should be sloped. But the concept is pretty simple. Remove the drip rail, widen it and while doing so make the ends flat from left over rail from the other top. Then fill the ends with flat aluminum sheet also from the other top.

Time to get some body work dollys and get practicing on getting dents out of aluminum I guess. I'll use Janey as a guinea pig :D

Before I commit to the roof I want to make a decision on the nose so I'll mock up a few scenarios and see. It really helps to see it. I have two leading ideas, probably both a bit adventurous, and a third much simpler

1. Make slide out drawers on the front that have the same profile as the tub on the sides/doors. 50/50 split left to right, and have these slide out hold a kitchen on one side and batteries/electrical stuff on the other. The front would get boxed off flat and have a small nose box since there won't be room for much else.

2. Custom make an aluminum nose box that is nice and wide and tall by the tub and slopes downward and inward to the front - similar to the conqueror adventure trailer nose box if you have seen those. I figure I'd see if Mat and I can tig up a nice box and lid. This would take care of my boxy front concerns and give lots of additional room.

3. Box off the front of the tub, make some brackets for jerry cans, propane etc, and put my little nose box in front of it and call it done.

I would like to find out if I can get side lockers cheap, the big ones that can hold 2 jerry cans, and this would drive some decisions as well. I'd *love* to do 4 side lockers (the landibox will fit behind the wheels) but buying these new would cost more than I have in the whole trailer at this point!

I can't keep the trailer in the driveway and my wife wants to park the minivan in the garage instead of the trailer (no idea why ) so I have to store it away from the house. Slows things down a bit since I cant spend a little time late nights on it.

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Old October 24th, 2009, 09:20 PM
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1 and 2 look like shit mocked up. That might change with the look of the front, but #3 is the best looking in the photochops.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 10:43 AM
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Thanks everyone.

I do want to see the big picture as it can certainly affect how the roof looks so I'll mock up some front end designs and see how it all looks together.
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Old October 27th, 2009, 01:07 PM
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Hey Charles,
Looks awesome. Don't know if you've seen the 110 on eBay with the LR trailer, but figured I'd pass along for reference and inspiration. (or if someone was thinking of something similar). I think you're going a different route, but I like this swing-open top too.

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Old October 27th, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Hey I haven't seen that one before but I like it. I like that fake spare tire for hidden storage too but it seems a bit dodgy not having a spare!

But yeah I'm going in a slightly different direction. I like the way you get counter space with that design but it rules out a RTT. I am playing with some front end designs and one of them would give me a slide out kitchen which I could do fold up tables with. But if I go the simpler route I was thinking simple clip on tables to the side of the trailer would work with proper storage cubbies. Also one or two big slide out drawers to the back could have a flip open kitchen as well. Too many variations to a theme!

I have some crappy sketchup models of the basic designs I'll post a pic of in a minute. Maybe someone more skilled and patient that me could take the models and make something useful out of them but I tried this last night while watching football and ran out of patience.

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Two basic "get er done" plans for the front. I haven't seen any nose boxes I like so the idea would be to custom make that, otherwise I already have a small one depicted in the ones with the cans/tanks.
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Old October 27th, 2009, 02:32 PM
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My vote is for option 1, I like the look of the original LR roof lines. However, if you're going to put a rack and roof top tent on there and hide that anyway, I'd go for option 3 which gives you a little more capacity under the cover.
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Old October 27th, 2009, 02:46 PM
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Hey I haven't seen that one before but I like it. I like that fake spare tire for hidden storage too but it seems a bit dodgy not having a spare!
Hood mounted spare tire... it doesn't have it on for the photo shoot but you can see the studs sticking out in pictures of the front...
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Old October 27th, 2009, 02:51 PM
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I saw that, but even assuming he uses it, that's 1 spare for 6 tires - still lacking IMO. Next you'll tell me tires can be patched/repaired. Agreed, but I still like the comfort factor of 2 spares when you have a trailer.
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FYI I have a full length galvanised rack from an 88" available!
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Old October 27th, 2009, 04:26 PM
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I saw that, but even assuming he uses it, that's 1 spare for 6 tires - still lacking IMO. Next you'll tell me tires can be patched/repaired. Agreed, but I still like the comfort factor of 2 spares when you have a trailer.
nope I agree with you actually, I would have assumed that if you're pulling the trailer you either switch out the tool-box for another spare or you stick one somewhere else... I was under the impression that you were thinking he wasn't carrying a spare at all
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Old October 27th, 2009, 05:19 PM
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Thanks Trevor but you know what I want - that hannibal tent! I have some Thule racks, so all I want to do is optionally fit a RTT.

Maybe I am trying to do too much, but I'd like to be able to

a) run it in utility mode - say for trail cleanups, landfill runs etc. No top, and usable bed space.
b) add top and have secure, dry storage
c) add rack and RTT for chaser mode.

In reality, b and c may mean a big internal drawer going in and out the bed too unless I come up with a way to have a built in kitchen up front. My idea is to have front box with big "drawers" that slide out to the side but its probably way too adventurous (and expensive).

Brad, you are right i was too loose with my wording and said no spare. Either way, I don't see that trailer setup to carry a spare anywhere.

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Old November 5th, 2009, 09:11 AM
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Thanks Trevor but you know what I want - that hannibal tent! I have some Thule racks, so all I want to do is optionally fit a RTT.

Maybe I am trying to do too much, but I'd like to be able to

a) run it in utility mode - say for trail cleanups, landfill runs etc. No top, and usable bed space.
b) add top and have secure, dry storage
c) add rack and RTT for chaser mode.

In reality, b and c may mean a big internal drawer going in and out the bed too unless I come up with a way to have a built in kitchen up front. My idea is to have front box with big "drawers" that slide out to the side but its probably way too adventurous (and expensive).

Brad, you are right i was too loose with my wording and said no spare. Either way, I don't see that trailer setup to carry a spare anywhere.

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I've got the cappings, and the corners are pretty OK, but the welds along the side are all rusted. You could probably combine them with the other set to make decent ones. Plus you've got all the extra material along the rails.

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Oh, and do you think the Hannibal is any better than the EZ-Awnl? I'm really happy with my EZ, and they've got that neato one now that is designed for a trailer or a pickup bed.
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No progress made on it since the MAR. I've been busy, but also needed to get it out of the garage and my HOA won't let me keep in in the driveway so I have to keep it offsite. This eliminates quick one hour here, one hour there efforts in the evening. I did bring it home this week as I wanted to do the sliders, but realized I didn't have enough material, not sure I like the 2x3 anyway, and want to make a decision on the front before doing the front section anyway. Have not had time to go get more steel or work on it other than making a tailgate "chain".

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I've got the cappings, and the corners are pretty OK, but the welds along the side are all rusted. You could probably combine them with the other set to make decent ones. Plus you've got all the extra material along the rails.
Sounds perfect. Yeah they will get all hacked up anyway so no worries.
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Oh, and do you think the Hannibal is any better than the EZ-Awnl? I'm really happy with my EZ, and they've got that neato one now that is designed for a trailer or a pickup bed.
Well, since I'm from SA I'm biased But really the only reason I say Hannibal is because Mat M. was selling one for a SMOKING deal, but I missed out on it.

When I get to that point I'll review them all and see whats available. Right now I'm contemplating spending a ton on some side lockers but they will give me a lot of storage.
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It's been a while since I have had time to work on this, but got some this week. I scored a used Eezi-awn series 3 1800 RTT over the break so I committed to the roof having squared ends on both sides since it's just going to have racks and the RTT on it anyway. During the week separated the the donor roofs from their drip rails. Today I built the new drip rail out of the two. Here are pictures of the look mocked up (I'm too lazy to photo chop them together). That's the new drip rail with half a roof placed on it.
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very cool. btw i have many detail photos for you of the stock MOD 110 side lockers.

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It's been a while since I have had time to work on this, but got some this week. I scored a used Eezi-awn series 3 1800 RTT over the break so I committed to the roof having squared ends on both sides since it's just going to have racks and the RTT on it anyway. During the week separated the the donor roofs from their drip rails. Today I built the new drip rail out of the two. Here are pictures of the look mocked up (I'm too lazy to photo chop them together). That's the new drip rail with half a roof placed on it.
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I'd be curious to see them, but after seeing pictures Pendy sent, and seeing the parts diagrams I have pretty much ruled them. Other than carry fuel cans they don't really fit my needs.

At this point I've decided to do 2 large (6') drawers that slide out the rear, and I'll see how I look for space at that point. Side lockers would be nice but the ones I want are a budget killer.
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the ones i saw could be fabbed up for <$50


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I'd be curious to see them, but after seeing pictures Pendy sent, and seeing the parts diagrams I have pretty much ruled them. Other than carry fuel cans they don't really fit my needs.

At this point I've decided to do 2 large (6') drawers that slide out the rear, and I'll see how I look for space at that point. Side lockers would be nice but the ones I want are a budget killer.
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Have another 40 ft container leaving Foleys/Essex in two weeks or so if you decide to buy Stuarts expensive ones.
Email me if you do- will need your receipt.
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the ones i saw could be fabbed up for <$50
Ok would love to see them please.
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Thanks, but for right now I'll pass.
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