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Old January 6th, 2014, 10:52 PM
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remove ext roll cage ok?

hi all

im new here
just receive delivery today
of '95 alpine white d90

truck is in very good condition
with 32k miles

i plan to use it as my around town ride
low miles usage for errands and short local trips

i am considering removing
the exterior roll bar
and the brush bars
to give it a cleaner look
as well as lighten the load

is there any reason safety wise, structurally or otherwise that this could be a bad idea?

also
any recommendations on how to deal with the holes once the bars are removed?
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Old January 6th, 2014, 10:57 PM
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Dont take off the Exo Cage. Its what makes your NAS truck special, and your head on if rolls over.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 10:58 PM
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That cage was installed by LR to meet USDOT crash requirements. Without it, you are in a beer can.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:02 PM
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i had a feeling that was the case...
roll bar stays then

thanks for the quick feedback!!!
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:02 PM
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Bottom line you will devalue it! With that said I'll buy it if you take it off!!
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:13 PM
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nice to get both sides of the argument here thanks!

i probably wont drive more than 25-30mph on average around town

so may be less of a risk for high speed accidents...but of course you never know

i notice few of the UK versions have those bars

what is a ROW truck?
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:17 PM
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nice to get both sides of the argument here thanks!

i probably wont drive more than 25-30mph on average around town

so may be less of a risk for high speed accidents...but of course you never know

i notice few of the UK versions have those bars

what is a ROW truck?
Rest of the World, as exported from the UK
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:20 PM
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Personally, I'd consider leaving it on. In addition to the increased margin of safety, it is part of the great character of the truck. However, if your goal is a cleaner look perhaps a better option is painting the roll bar white and or the wheel flares. Then you don't have to bother with the holes. (Monochromatic like some ROW trucks.) BUT I think your truck looks great! Congrats and welcome.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:26 PM
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Don't paint that shit white! Leave it alone! Love it rock it! You got a good one!
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:31 PM
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Leave the roll cage as is. Ok to remove the brush guard if you want to. But You'd be better off using it to mount extra driving lights. I'm doing a build right now and will be adding a cage when the build is far enough complete. I like to stay in one piece rather than rest in pieces.
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:33 PM
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thanks guys!!!

i guess i will marinate on it while i get accustomed to the truck

probably wont do anything to it
since it does make safety sense
as well as maintain original character

but its nice to explore the options
and weigh the pros and cons...

really appreciate it!!!

------ Follow up post added January 7th, 2014 04:34 AM ------

good point rocky!

thanks for the feedback!!!
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:37 PM
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Where are you in NYC? Looks like Brooklyn by McCarren Park. We have meet-ups fairly frequently, but usually in NYC proper. I think the thread comes up if you search NYC Meetup.

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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:37 PM
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Well, I might as well say it.
All of us who drive Range Rover Classics think those roll cages look like a bunch of monkey bars on an otherwise great looking truck.
You said it yourself richross, the UK Defenders don't have them... The ROW Defenders don't have them.
Ditch them, fill the holes, and some sap will pay you good money to take the bars off your hands!
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Old January 6th, 2014, 11:40 PM
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thanks rijosho!

yup you guessed right
im in williamsburg next to mccarren park

didnt know there were meet ups
id definitely be up for that

how do you learn about them?
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Ditch them, fill the holes, and some sap will pay you good money to take the bars off your hands!
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thanks rijosho! yup you guessed right im in williamsburg next to mccarren park didnt know there were meet ups id definitely be up for that how do you learn about them?
You search for the thread then subscribe to it.
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thanks for the feedback nomar!!!

i do love that clean look...
gonna give this some thought for sure
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thanks for the feedback nomar!!! i do love that clean look... gonna give this some thought for sure
Here is a thought, if you want a clean look sell it and buy a ROW and put half that money back in the bank. You have one of the sexiest cleanest trucks made, if you mess with it you will devalue it. You have a super low mileage original truck, if you change the originality all you will be doing is lowering the value. All kidding aside great truck! Don't mess with it to much, you really cannot improve on perfection!
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Here is a thought, if you want a clean look sell it and buy a ROW and put half that money back in the bank. You have one of the sexiest cleanest trucks made, if you mess with it you will devalue it. You have a super low mileage original truck, if you change the originality all you will be doing is lowering the value. All kidding aside great truck! Don't mess with it to much, you really cannot improve on perfection!
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remove ext roll cage ok?

thanks brewie!

i definitely want to respect the integrity of the truck
and its such a good example of a classic
that i want to maintain it as well as possible shy of sticking it in a glass box

i thought the bars could be something i could store if removed
and reinstalled at a later time
if resale were to happen
but im likely to do nothing for a while

right now im not rushing into anything
just exploring ideas...

thanks!

------ Follow up post added January 7th, 2014 05:01 AM ------

thanks rijosho for the thread search tip!
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