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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:17 PM
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Ninety Slider Fab & Install

I typically read a lot more than I post but I thought I'd try to contribute for a change.
I bought a beautiful 97 D90 last year and I finally decided the crappy steps had to go. These things flexed way too much and offered little protection. Plus some idiot did a nasty job of welding them to the frame.
I'll document the build and y'all can make fun.
Here's a few before photos.
Mike
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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:23 PM
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Here's a few more of the weld job & the frame rail behind the mounting plate. This was surface rust only. I wire brushed and sanded the rust and used a conversion coating before prime & paint.
Thanks for reading,
Mike
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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:33 PM
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I used 2x3, 3/16 wall steel tube for the slider and the round tube is 1 1/2, 1/8 wall. I decided to try something a bit different and cut each end with a compound angle, I wanted it to be the same angle as the fender lip. So that's a 45 one way and 10 the other.
Unfortunately this required a rather complicated sent up on the saw.
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Mike
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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:35 PM
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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:41 PM
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The existing steps did have one redeeming feature, I was able to use them to block & clamp the new steel in place. Here are a couple of photos of some other components. The round tube fit perfectly and extends to the inside of the frame rails. The square tube will be cut into two parts and ties into the bulkhead bolt.
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Mike
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Old September 1st, 2013, 10:54 PM
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I used a 3/16 strap as a spacer between the slider & the bulkhead, I welded it in later. I didn't like the idea of drilling a hole through the round frame tube and the new tube to hold the slider in place so I added a collar the the tube to prevent it from sliding further in and then added a 1/4 strap to tie into existing brackets on the frame tube. Yeah, I favor overkill sometimes. I think the photos will help this make sense.
Also here's a photo of the compound angle cut after I capped it.
Mike
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 01:55 AM
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Looks great. I would slather the tube that goes into the frame with grease or antiseize or the two tubes will rust themselves together. Also, if the bulkhead bolt (the big one) turns, now is the time to remove it and replace it with antiseize all over the shaft.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 06:24 AM
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Once mine get made up I'm pretty confident that they'll get galvanized. That said I love the idea of grease before installing.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 09:58 AM
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Looks great. I would slather the tube that goes into the frame with grease or antiseize or the two tubes will rust themselves together. Also, if the bulkhead bolt (the big one) turns, now is the time to remove it and replace it with antiseize all over the shaft.
Remember, I live in Georgia and the truck is always garaged. We don't have a rust problem here. That said the tube does have a good paint job.
More to come on the build.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:12 AM
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Remember, I live in Georgia and the truck is always garaged. We don't have a rust problem here. That said the tube does have a good paint job.
More to come on the build.
Mike
It was a suggestion to prevent a known issue with those sliders. I always find it funny when ppl totally disregard good suggestions, what do you think is going to happen when you slide that nice paint job into that frame mount? Anyway good looking sliders! Not trying to be a dick, just saying! I have had to cut many of those slider style mounts off because they have rusted together! Good luck on your build
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:21 AM
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Nice slider build!
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Pado, just put the grease &/or anti-seize in... It only take a minute... :-)
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:25 AM
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Damn, if it makes y'all feel better I put anti-seize on the bulkhead bolts while they were out (one at a time) and this isn't my first rodeo with Rovers.
I don't post much but I've been fabing and working on these trucks over 20 years. I had series trucks before the Defenders.
I'll post the remainder of the photos & write-up later.
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Mike
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:27 AM
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Looking good. One suggestion I have is to change the mount in the front to not allow it to pivot. If you put that to any real work it will pivot up and hit the body. You should be able to search here for Bill Burke Sliders and see how his mount, or I could sent you pictures. If these are cosmetic then what you have is fine.

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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:38 AM
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x3 on lathering the hell out of it with anti-seize. I had to redo the sliders on my white 90 before I sold it. It took me a LONG time and a lot of sweet and cutting to get the old ones out. If it's a slider and is going to be used, there will be a lot of water and stress on it that will cause the paint to flake and things to want to fuse together.

Love the fabrication work. I am going to build my own sliders for the 110 and will check out what you did with these once I start to build them.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:40 AM
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Looking good. One suggestion I have is to change the mount in the front to not allow it to pivot. If you put that to any real work it will pivot up and hit the body. You should be able to search here for Bill Burke Sliders and see how his mount, or I could sent you pictures. If these are cosmetic then what you have is fine.

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Thanks Charles, but I disagree on this one. The aft tube is 3/16 wall and runs through the frame rail. I've built them this way before & the owner beat the crap out of them but they didn't rotate.
These aren't for looks but I won't abuse this truck like past ones.
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Mike
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:44 AM
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 11:55 AM
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one
Works for me. As I said, this is not a truck that is going on extreme trails, I've gotten that out of my system and it's too nice.
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 02:33 PM
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That is a beautiful truck. I think I drooled on it a little. Sorry.

Those sliders look nice as does all your other previous work I've seen. Will you be driving that to TN in a couple weeks?
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 03:43 PM
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That is a beautiful truck. I think I drooled on it a little. Sorry.

Those sliders look nice as does all your other previous work I've seen. Will you be driving that to TN in a couple weeks?
Hey Jeff,
I don't know which truck I'm driving up, it depends on how much stuff I have to haul for the auction & raffle. This is the white 90 you saw last year at SAE.
See ya,
Mike
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