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Old June 25th, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Minimalist Trail Bumper and Steering Guard

I stole the idea from Chuck Henry. (http://www.defendersource.com/mod/bump.html)

I modified his original design slightly by using the following:

1/4" wall 2"x4" 304SS rectangle tubing
end caps cut from 304SS 3/16" x 2" wide flat bar.
316L welding rod, TIG, 100% Argon purge
OK-Offroad XD shackle mounts
OK-Offroad galvanized 3/4" shackles

PS: Drilling the stainless was a pain in the tuckus. I went through a few HSS bits, but the cobalt bits worked best.

The steering guard is plasma cut 3/16" thick AR400 abrasion resistant steel.

The real test will be Rausch Creek. I'm sort of expecting everything to be destroyed on the next trip, but if the parts hold up, then I will be quite happy
Many thanks again to Jeff Huff for the use of his facilities and putting up with lots of noise, late at night.
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Old June 25th, 2012, 09:37 PM
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Now we need to work on getting that tank skid worked out!
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Old June 25th, 2012, 10:37 PM
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I like it too. Now let's get to Rausch!
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Old June 25th, 2012, 10:59 PM
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Nice work. Reminds me of Ike's Series bumpers
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Old June 27th, 2012, 03:18 PM
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Thanks guys. Looking forward to the next Rausch Trip and trying the new equipment out.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 04:33 PM
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I spoke with him a few months ago, actually - sold the G, was racing Audi's for a while, but gave that up too from what I remember.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 05:21 PM
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We used to stage rover meet ups and run trails near his house near Divide and then cook out afterwards during the email distro list days...

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Old June 27th, 2012, 05:41 PM
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Q? He is the founder of the forum!!!

It's funny, when youve been arround awhile, some of the same discussions get readdressed by newer owners. It's also funny that the personality of the site changes as it does. It seems that there is a bigger push to keep things stock, while back it Q's day it was guys like Hinkel,Ritchy, Tisdale and Marbourg that were pushing the envelope to get more out of these things.

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Sounds like I prefer the good ol' days mentality. Anyone have a DeLorean and some jigawatts?
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Q? He is the founder of the forum!!!

It's funny, when youve been arround awhile, some of the same discussions get readdressed by newer owners. It's also funny that the personality of the site changes as it does. It seems that there is a bigger push to keep things stock, while back it Q's day it was guys like Hinkel,Ritchy, Tisdale and Marbourg that were pushing the envelope to get more out of these things.

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True... The twist off might not of happened these days- too gauche
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I stole the idea from Chuck Henry. (http://www.defendersource.com/mod/bump.html)

I modified his original design slightly by using the following:

1/4" wall 2"x4" 304SS rectangle tubing
end caps cut from 304SS 3/16" x 2" wide flat bar.
316L welding rod, TIG, 100% Argon purge
OK-Offroad XD shackle mounts
OK-Offroad galvanized 3/4" shackles

PS: Drilling the stainless was a pain in the tuckus. I went through a few HSS bits, but the cobalt bits worked best.

The steering guard is plasma cut 3/16" thick AR400 abrasion resistant steel.

The real test will be Rausch Creek. I'm sort of expecting everything to be destroyed on the next trip, but if the parts hold up, then I will be quite happy
Many thanks again to Jeff Huff for the use of his facilities and putting up with lots of noise, late at night.

Looks neat Ed but why stainless ?
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What bolts are you using for the four bolts through the bumper to the frame?
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Haha oops I forgot the smiley. My caliper is on its way to me!!! Don't worry! haha.

But I was kind of serious, too. This bumper, it appears, was made for recovery from others, so if it's not a kinetic rope, there will be a significant amount of "jolt" force on the bolts - was just wondering what bolts he went with for the 4 vertical frame bolts, since they look shiney.
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Looks neat Ed but why stainless ?
Because it will never rust?

Mine is s/s as well.
At least something I don't have to worry about...
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Looks good, but we need a side view pic too

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I stole the idea from Chuck Henry.

I modified his original design slightly
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Currently Ed has a couple of temporary 3/8"x5" bolts in because the 1/2" bolts he purchased for the job would not work. I do like that you have managed to taint two threads with discussions of bumper bolts now though!

------ Follow up post added June 28th, 2012 03:26 PM ------

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Looks neat Ed but why stainless ?
While he will never admit it, I think he regrets the SS selection after how much work it added to the process! That being said, like Cube said as well, it is one spot that will not rust on him!
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All fasteners are Grade 8

I will take a side view photo for you, Cube.

Doug, I used 304SS because I looked at the cost of powdercoating or galvanizing vs the cost of stainless and in the end, using stainless ended up cheapest. But Jeff is right, what I saved in money, I made up in sweat and tears.
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All fasteners are Grade 8

I will take a side view photo for you, Cube.

Doug, I used 304SS because I looked at the cost of powdercoating or galvanizing vs the cost of stainless and in the end, using stainless ended up cheapest. But Jeff is right, what I saved in money, I made up in sweat and tears.
The tears were mostly caused by the excruciating squeal my drill press was making while devouring drill bits making the holes in that thing!
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