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Old January 15th, 2016, 01:31 PM
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Just a report on some headlights I took a chance on off Ebay, watched them for a while, but when they got down to 150.00 each I pulled the trigger. They have more LMs than the JW skeakers at 2800LM low beam and 4450LMs on high. Total plug and play and output is better than the HIDs on my 996 Porsche turbo. They just dropped again to 139.00 with free shipping so just a heads up
2015 New 7inch 48W 30W LED H4 H13 Hi Low Headlight for Jeep Wrangler TJ JK CJ | eBay
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Old January 15th, 2016, 03:50 PM
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Is that price "each" or "pair"? I am in the market and considering all options to review :-)
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Old January 15th, 2016, 04:13 PM
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Is that price "each" or "pair"? I am in the market and considering all options to review :-)
That is 139.00 each so 280.00 for the pair still much cheaper and brighter than other LED options. It's a really clean focused light, cut off is perfect on low beams.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:29 PM
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How are these at night? I am particularly interested in the lateral throw to the sides--some of the LED headlights project far really well, but they lack side beam so that you can see where you are turning and such. Any chance to get an evening shot of how the light spread looks like? The lumen output and heat sink design seems pretty stout. I would also be curious if there is a fan in these--anything you can hear?
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Old January 16th, 2016, 01:59 PM
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I'll take some night shots of low and high beams tonight and post up.
I don't think I can hear a fan.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 04:18 PM
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The picture above says 3300 lumen but the ad says 4450-- do they advertise one and ship the other?
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Old January 16th, 2016, 04:42 PM
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I notice that just as I took that picture that is was different, that does say 3800 which is still quite good.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 06:56 PM
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It is-- I see that they have two different versions (40w vs 48w) and two different price points. On Amazon they actually list both lumens on same post. I was just confused on what I get versus what I order, if I go this route. The output is impressive, but on eBay there exists a 6000 lumen, 25w which is impossible-- that doesn't exist(Lummen per watt-- that is too high). Just so hard to weed out the bullshit nowadays.
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Do you really think "Sun Pie" is going to tell you the truth about the lumens output on their Chinese made product? Lumens are always calculate two ways; Raw and Effective. Raw is the theoretical output without loss from glass and other obstructions. Effective is what you get when testing the actual product. The majority of unscrupulous sellers out there advertise the Raw lumens but they don't actually tell you if they are referring to Raw or Effective because the Effective number is always less impressive. So, if they don't specifically say that it is Raw versus Effective, assume that they are referring to Raw lumens or just outright lying to you.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 09:16 PM
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Really they just make up any number they want because there is no downside.
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from looking at the pictures of the lense they seem to be E code not SAE or DOT certified. that being said if you live in a state such as VA where we do yearly state inspections, your headlights will make you fail said inspection.
needless to say in the end it may anger you to learn the new shiny lights may not be road legal.
just my observation as a VA state inspector.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 08:59 PM
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Colorado doesn't care much--we just do emissions testing. A cop could do an on the spot safety check, but that would be super rare...

As far as Raw (initial) and Effective (delivered) lumens, I am pretty knowledgeable there. and I always assume the lesser of the two (initial is what the LED in lab will put out, and delivered is what the entire assembly will give coming out). And that is only part of the equation--just as important is the reflector design and "where" it puts those lumens.

That said, my question still remains--as there are currently to versions of that particular headlight due to an LED change. The latter puts out 30% more light, so that is why I am curious.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:49 AM
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I'll try to get those beam patern pics up tonight. When I first installed these I had my wife drive it by me and they are much less distracting to on coming traffic than most, you can stand in front of it at night and see the windshield with zero glare. I think the e codes have a deeper high beam. I would bet most of the LED headlights are made in China. I took a gamble on these and they seem to be a Vast improvement. I have better vision than in my newer cars with HIDs. Even if they were only the same output as the JW Speakers they were less than 1/3 the price.
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