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Old December 18th, 2013, 12:40 PM
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Isn't what the old series grills were also used for?

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would need quick disconnects! but really there might be something there! Kinda like tin foil on a manifold (lamb shank, butter and green onion).
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Isn't what the old series grills were also used for?
It is called the breakfast afterall
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:25 PM
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First Aluminum Prototypes

I picked up the first aluminum prototypes today and they look good. I was pleasantly surprised about the rigidity as well as the low weight. Unlike the prototype in the photos, the final version will also be welded, ground and polished on the sides so there will be a smooth seamless finish all around leaving no marks or blemishes. They will be made from 3/16" thick 5052 Aluminum that is laser cut, welded, ground, polished and sand blasted then finally anodized black using Type III Anodization. I will be receiving a quote next week and there will likely be a minimum of 20 pairs for it to happen.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:35 PM
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Do you know if they'll fit NAS?
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:36 PM
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Not yet. Perhaps someone can tell me the diameter is on the NAS turn signal?

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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:38 PM
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Next you need to make covers for the parking and turn lamps similar to the Equip/COR4 ones. Same process as yours, laser cut, interlocking, anodized, except you only do horizontal bars vice both.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:42 PM
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I am working on a design with complete coverage exactly how you describe.

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Next you need to make covers for the parking and turn lamps similar to the Equip/COR4 ones. Same process as yours, laser cut, interlocking, anodized, except you only do horizontal bars vice both.
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Not yet. Perhaps someone can tell me the diameter is on the NAS turn signal?
Yeah trucks in the shop for CV's. Sorry.
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complete coverage of all lamps design would be a plus, even more so if someone could figure out a design that does not need to be drilled into the wings.

(like a lamp surround that has integrated grille)
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:18 PM
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Do you think there would be enough interest for a surround with integrated grille? I'm working on an aluminum replacement for the headlight surround and I was considering adding bars to it. Whatever the solution is I'm going to do my best to try and avoid drilling.

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complete coverage of all lamps design would be a plus, even more so if someone could figure out a design that does not need to be drilled into the wings. (like a lamp surround that has integrated grille)
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Do you think there would be enough interest for a surround with integrated grille? I'm working on an aluminum replacement for the headlight surround and I was considering adding bars to it. Whatever the solution is I'm going to do my best to try and avoid drilling.
I like the surround with bars idea but I see a potential problem. How will the design allow for changing bulbs? The way I'm imagining it you'd have to remove the entire surround to change a bulb. And to remove a surround you have to remove both lenses and bulb holders, which seems difficult with the bars in the way. On the lamp guards I have the top screws come out while the bottom stay in so it flips down to access bulbs
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Agreed. A full coverage design should probably have a hinge.
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Do you think there would be enough interest for a surround with integrated grille? I'm working on an aluminum replacement for the headlight surround and I was considering adding bars to it. Whatever the solution is I'm going to do my best to try and avoid drilling.
I think its perfect the way it looks now. Simple.

Although the marker lenses are what are prone to breaking, so maybe you could design some tiny ones for the marker lenses?, or enlarge to cover the lenses?
I don't see a problem with it not having hinges. I mean how difficult is it to remove four screws? Are we really changing bulbs that often?

I'd run these as-is and maybe get some of those small cages that RN sells for the turn signals.
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It is illegal in Virginia to have anything (guard) in front of the headlamps.

Check your local regulations.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:40 PM
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I agree. That's why I started with the headlight-only design. Headlights range in price all the way up to $1500 while turn signal lamps are... cheap.

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I think its perfect the way it looks now. Simple. Although the marker lenses are what are prone to breaking, so maybe you could design some tiny ones for the marker lenses?, or enlarge to cover the lenses? I don't see a problem with it not having hinges. I mean how difficult is it to remove four screws? Are we really changing bulbs that often? I'd run these as-is and maybe get some of those small cages that RN sells for the turn signals.
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Agreed. A full coverage design should probably have a hinge.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 09:35 PM
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For now I'll proceed with the headlight-only version and I will model up some options to look at in SolidWorks of the full coverage version but I won't proceed to make anything of the latter unless its a simple and appropriate solution. I have more ideas than I can possibly make and there are other product ideas that I'd like to get to before this one.
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That's what I did when I bought my truck. You just need a new set of surrounds and turn signal lights. Both are cheap. I considered counter sinking the mounting holes but hesitated to make it too thin in that area. It's probably fine though. The plan was to source fasteners to go with the kit. If I find a low profile screw so that it is flush mounted it could be worhtwhile. "Security" screws would be nice. Also it adds another step in the process since the laser won't do it which might affect quote a little.
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You could always swap the goofy sized lights for some normal looking ones. Carl, will the mounting holes be counter sunk? -Jeff
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You could always swap the goofy sized lights for some normal looking ones.


Carl, will the mounting holes be counter sunk?

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Next you'll be offering the idea that Brits and dental braces make good common sense!...think I'll keep them as intended...(for now).
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