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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:05 PM
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Dash Radio Mount

Hi everyone. I tried searching but could not find the answer or the product. I am buying a 1991 ROW D110 200TDI. It does not currently have a stereo. I'm going to install a simple 2 or 4 speaker system and plan to put 2 speakers under the dash and possibly 2 more on either side of the rear door. The upper portion of the dash is a light grey color (lower portion is darker). I can't seem to find online the radio mount that matches the color of the lighter grey. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Attached is a photo of my existing dash and another of the setup i am looking for (although it is a RHD and mine is LHD)

I'm planning to install this radio - Pioneer MVH-X380BT - let me know if you have any opinions on that.

I haven't researched speakers yet but my understanding is that they will need to be 4" speakers to fit in existing cut outs.

Thanks for your help
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:10 PM
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I have a row truck as well. Was not a fan of the dash radio options, I ended up buying a tuffy box instead and removed the center seat.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:12 PM
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I have a row truck as well. Was not a fan of the dash radio options, I ended up buying a tuffy box instead and removed the center seat.
Thanks. Yeah, i don't love the look of a new digital radio on the classic ROW dash. Do you find that it is a pain to access the radio, change channel/volume, etc? What did you do for speakers?
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:17 PM
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I have a dash mount in my 87 90 LHD. When I shift to 5th the shifter knob taps the radio source button, changing my source. Annoying. I'm either going to change the radio to one with a different knob setup or go to a Tuffy center console setup as I'd like to add cup holders.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:21 PM
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I like the mud mounts

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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:21 PM
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I used pioneer ts-cx7 for the fronts and just popped them on the dash. Rears I used marine pod speakers.

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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:22 PM
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Hey Kurt:
Have you actually driven a 200TDI 110?
Are you aware of the noise levels that commonly drown out 80% of the speaker sound?
Not trying to burst your stereo bubble, just trying to provide some input that may help.
Generally a radio is at the end or not even on my list.
Things like timing belt, suspension bushings, electric cooling fan, replacing injectors, and so on always fill the list up.
Good luck and hope you locate what your looking for.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:30 PM
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Agree with what Robert says. When my radio is on its got to be on fucking loud!
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third...a $5 pair of earbuds and an MP3 player will save your hearing and give you infinitely better sound than a stereo in a 200tdi.
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Hey Kurt:
Have you actually driven a 200TDI 110?
Are you aware of the noise levels that commonly drown out 80% of the speaker sound?
Not trying to burst your stereo bubble, just trying to provide some input that may help.
Generally a radio is at the end or not even on my list.
Things like timing belt, suspension bushings, electric cooling fan, replacing injectors, and so on always fill the list up.
Good luck and hope you locate what your looking for.
Ah, that's part of the fun, open the windows and crank it up!
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:48 PM
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Ah, that's part of the fun, open the windows and crank it up!
Crank what up, the diesel fuel to give a little more speed?, cause you can't hear any tunes with the windows open with the engine going.
I guess the stereo would be OK to listen to when you are not moving with the engine off... like the time I waited for a tow truck.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:56 PM
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Hey Kurt:
Have you actually driven a 200TDI 110?
Are you aware of the noise levels that commonly drown out 80% of the speaker sound?
Not trying to burst your stereo bubble, just trying to provide some input that may help.
Generally a radio is at the end or not even on my list.
Things like timing belt, suspension bushings, electric cooling fan, replacing injectors, and so on always fill the list up.
Good luck and hope you locate what your looking for.
Fair comment. No, i have not driven one yet. Only a v8. I do plan on doing some sound proofing, acoustic carpeting/matting, etc. Yes, i am taking care of the CAM belt and other key maintenance items before i worry about a stereo!
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:57 PM
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Crank what up, the diesel fuel to give a little more speed?, cause you can't hear any tunes with the windows open with the engine going.
I guess the stereo would be OK to listen to when you are not moving with the engine off... like the time I waited for a tow truck.
I have a 200TDI and hear the radio just fine. The speakers are mounted in the headliner directly over my head though. But, I should probably try my noise cancelling earbuds, which is probably illegal in Texas.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 01:58 PM
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Kurt, I have a single DIN radio mount like you show in the right pic above that is surplus to my needs. PM me if you are interested in one.
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Old May 5th, 2016, 08:43 PM
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Kurt, not being nosey, but saw that you're getting a 200Tdi in CA. I'm sure you've looked into how to title a diesel in CA, or have some other plan.
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lot's of good info in this thread

when you get to the point of dealing with a radio, fwiw, we went with the muduk console as well. (it does require you to cut the dash, which is a big consideration)





running our 200tdi, the radio is pretty much a no-go with the windows down. with the windows up, not too bad at all.

here is the noise level from this morning at around 60-65 mph with the windows up





was listening to the radio at that level with no trouble. the only sound proofing we have is exmoor rubber matting on the floor and some 30-year old bonnet insulation crumbly piece

that said, it's still loud enough that the family prefers our other car for long trips based on the noise alone
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lot's of good info in this thread when you get to the point of dealing with a radio, fwiw, we went with the muduk console as well. (it does require you to cut the dash, which is a big consideration) running our 200tdi, the radio is pretty much a no-go with the windows down. with the windows up, not too bad at all. here is the noise level from this morning at around 60-65 mph with the windows up was listening to the radio at that level with no trouble. the only sound proofing we have is exmoor rubber matting on the floor and some 30-year old bonnet insulation crumbly piece that said, it's still loud enough that the family prefers our other car for long trips based on the noise alone
Wow. Defender Source is amazing. Incredible that people will go out and actually take Db samples on their trucks to be helpful to the community. Love it. Are those Db tests w the radio OFF?

We are putting down acoustic carpet throughout the truck and will put matting over that. I am considering doing dynamat under the carpet, headliner and doors. That would cost around $1500 which seems expensive to me and not sure if that is overkill. Anyone have advice on this? Worth doing the dynamat?
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Old May 6th, 2016, 09:43 PM
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Brian...which head unit do you have in the Mud unit...I have not installed mine yet and would like a double din unit that fits...[QUOTE=LostChord;737134]lot's of good info in this thread

when you get to the point of dealing with a radio, fwiw, we went with the muduk console as well. (it does require you to cut the dash, which is a big consideration)


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Old May 7th, 2016, 08:33 AM
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Are those Db tests w the radio OFF?
Radio was on, but it was just talk radio.

------ Follow up post added May 7th, 2016 08:35 AM ------

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We are putting down acoustic carpet throughout the truck and will put matting over that. I am considering doing dynamat under the carpet, headliner and doors. That would cost around $1500 which seems expensive to me and not sure if that is overkill. Anyone have advice on this? Worth doing the dynamat?
Lost of good threads on here about sound proofing, including alternatives to dynamat such as second skin audio and mcmaster carr substitutes.

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Brian...which head unit do you have in the Mud unit...I have not installed mine yet and would like a double din unit that fits...
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Old May 7th, 2016, 09:02 AM
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Wow. Defender Source is amazing. Incredible that people will go out and actually take Db samples on their trucks to be helpful to the community. Love it. Are those Db tests w the radio OFF?

We are putting down acoustic carpet throughout the truck and will put matting over that. I am considering doing dynamat under the carpet, headliner and doors. That would cost around $1500 which seems expensive to me and not sure if that is overkill. Anyone have advice on this? Worth doing the dynamat?
Don't use the name brand dynamat, it overpriced. I us whatever is cheap on ebay or peel and seal from home Depot/Lowes. Mind you peel and seal will smell for about three weeks after install
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