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Old May 8th, 2015, 02:13 PM
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If for some reason you put the clutch disk in backward, it will be really tough to bleed it and to get it to work right. But it should still work. Don't ask me how I know this.

You might also try pumping the pedal vigorously and repeatedly to see if that creates enough pressure to release the clutch. If that works, then you probably still have some bubbles in there.
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I disconnected the return spring and opened the bleed nipple with my right hand while pushing the clutch pedal with my left hand. Don't laugh, it worked.
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Old May 13th, 2015, 08:37 PM
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Old May 13th, 2015, 08:47 PM
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Didn't read the whole thread, but...
Did you install a new clutch or leave the old one in place?
If you left the clutch in place, then the hydraulics could be working fine, but the driven plate (disk) stuck to the flywheel.
Very common and generally easy to resolve provided the vehicle less the clutch operating is ready for driving.
More advice on this if this is the case.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 02:21 PM
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Sorry for the delays.

I put in a new clutch. I'm positive I didn't put it in backwards because that was something I was worried about before I put it in.

I gravity bled the system and refilled it with some Dot4. It still isn't working. I still have some brake fluid left, so I'm going to do it again, if that doesn't work I am going to replace the slave, then if that doesn't work I will have to take it apart .
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Old May 19th, 2015, 07:02 PM
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So I before I bled the slave cyllinder the truck would move once in gear, I just couldn't get it in or out of gear. Now I bled the line, and it seems to shift smoothly, but the truck isn't moving. It feels like the flywheel is moving independant of the friction plate regardless of if I'm in gear or not.
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Old May 19th, 2015, 08:07 PM
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Do you have free play adjusted properly?
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Old May 19th, 2015, 08:34 PM
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Do you have free play adjusted properly?
I haven't checked it. It appears to have very little free play, if any. It isn't impossible that it could be too tight an not allowing it to release fully. It's definitely worth checking. I really hope it's something as simple as this.

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Old May 19th, 2015, 08:36 PM
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You must have free play or it will continuously release the clutch.
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Old May 27th, 2015, 10:51 AM
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So I checked to see if my master cylinder worked and it did fine. I checked my slave and it did fine. I dropped the transmission to verify that all of the associated clutch pieces were put in the correct way. Bolted it back up and bled it. The clutch freely shifts without the pedal being pushed and freely spins without engaging the transmission. I tried in low range and it works, but very badly. I can move it in lock but I have to stop the engine to shift it. It seems the have an opposite problem with the locker engaged. I'm about as confused as I can possible be.
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You've got both propshafts installed, right?
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Old May 27th, 2015, 10:58 AM
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Okay. Can you explain in more detail what happens and when. You description above is confusing.

Do you have clutch pedal resistance? Does the pedal have at least 1/4" of free play? Are the pedal height and stops set correctly?

As to how is is behaving while driving you need to be more clear on what works and when it works.
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Okay. Can you explain in more detail what happens and when. You description above is confusing.

Do you have clutch pedal resistance? Does the pedal have at least 1/4" of free play? Are the pedal height and stops set correctly?

As to how is is behaving while driving you need to be more clear on what works and when it works.
The stop and height is good, the free play is good, the resistance is good.
The only way I can get it to actually move is in diff lock; it is very slow and jerky and it will only shift with the engine off.

When not in diff lock the clutch will not engage, and therefore the flywheel free spins without effecting the transmission. So I am able to shift without using the clutch pedal, and the truck acts like its in neutral in all gears.

Haha yes my props acts are connected.
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Old May 27th, 2015, 03:46 PM
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This has nothing to do with the engine or clutch.

You have something broken in the transfer case or one of the axles. When diff lock is NOT engaged, let the clutch out in gear, engine running. Have someone else look underneath and see if one of the driveshafts is spinning.
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did someone tow your truck for you when it broke down ?
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Old May 28th, 2015, 03:16 PM
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Interesting. I'll have to look into it.

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did someone tow your truck for you when it broke down ?
Yes it was towed on a front wheel dolly. I took the rear drive shaft entirely off for the tow.
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I'm with Red90 on this one for what it's worth. Sounds for sure like something goofy going on with the transfer box....or perhaps a diff....or half shaft.

If you can indeed get someone to have a wee peep at the prop shafts to see if they both are turning. If both are turning then the transfer box should be OK,i.e. clutch is OK also.

If,for example,a rear diff was blown(without any noise and crunching etc which can happen) the only way to get drive would be to use your diff lock,i.e. front wheel drive.

The same problem would be typical also of a snapped half shaft. This is easy to confirm by just unbolting your drive flanges and taking out and looking at the half shafts.

I'd carry out this easier check first before checking the diff. At a 50/50 guess if it's a diff I'd check the front one first.


I hope you get to the source soon so as to enable you to progress.

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Any updates Cal? I'll be in your area mid July and would love to see the rig and drink a beer with you.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 09:48 PM
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Any updates Cal? I'll be in your area mid July and would love to see the rig and drink a beer with you.
That sounds good, I look forward to it.

No updates just yet. The project is at a bit of a stand still at the moment until I have more time and more money to dump into her. My next step is to tow it to the service skills center on Pendleton so I can more easily pull out the transfer case. I already planned on doing it since I bought a new gearing for it, I was just hoping to drive it there and not tow it.
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