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Old August 14th, 2014, 12:49 PM
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With how Rover does some things (good and bad) they probably had those motor mounts designed for the Series petrol motors but kept them in circulation for ease of grabbing off the shelf and not having to redesign frame mounts.

Merc on the other hand probably had a team to figure out how to keep their diesels as quiet and comfortable as their gas versions sedans.

Transient - have you held one of those Merc mounts? They are huge (probably 4x bigger than a Rover) and have to be installed a certain way for engine forces/vibrations. Not sure if you know but the Merc mounts that Robert uses aren't for the OM617 they are from the OM606 (or maybe the OM603) which like Uncle Doug said is bigger/more powerful motor.
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Shayne - Come up to VA for the Conclave event - good times there - you may be able to coordinate with Raub....just do Expo East with all of us... couple of Scot wankers (Robert & Doug) and you and me should be able to get up to some mischief...
Cabell, Robert, Trey, and I make 4 Scot wankers. Bring it Shayne, the more the merrier. Pedro may even show up and that's high entertainment value.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 01:08 PM
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With how Rover does some things (good and bad) they probably had those motor mounts designed for the Series petrol motors but kept them in circulation for ease of grabbing off the shelf and not having to redesign frame mounts.

Merc on the other hand probably had a team to figure out how to keep their diesels as quiet and comfortable as their gas versions sedans.

Transient - have you held one of those Merc mounts? They are huge (probably 4x bigger than a Rover) and have to be installed a certain way for engine forces/vibrations. Not sure if you know but the Merc mounts that Robert uses aren't for the OM617 they are from the OM606 (or maybe the OM603) which like Uncle Doug said is bigger/more powerful motor.
Same mount used on military tracked vehicles, see at the very bottom of this post.

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Cabell, Robert, Trey, and I make 4 Scot wankers.
Being Scottish and wankers... we keep trying to climb out and get ahead, but our drunkenness and cheapness pulls us back down.
We need Shayne to help us up or at least pop open a "real" Fosters!
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Old August 14th, 2014, 01:34 PM
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Old August 14th, 2014, 01:38 PM
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

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Old August 14th, 2014, 02:07 PM
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Didn't I see a thread about conclave somewhere around here...ROTFPML...

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Scotsmen scare me...
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Scotsmen scare me...
Uncle Douglas scares everyone when he walks through the woods especially in areas known to have had Bigfoot sightings.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 09:54 PM
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Uncle Douglas scares everyone when he walks through the woods especially in areas known to have had Bigfoot sightings.
Forgot Raub is also a scot.

I scare/intimidate people ( cop on Portsmouth Island was stammering) Robert talks em to death. Raub will simply shoot you.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 11:14 PM
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Any grown man who wears a wooly skirt scares me... Thankfully that is usually just Scotsmen..... And they can usually drink even an Aussie under the table... That's gotta be superhuman...
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Old August 15th, 2014, 07:37 AM
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Can you imagine Doug in this picture in a Bigfoot suit?
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Old August 15th, 2014, 09:47 AM
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Can you imagine Doug in this picture in a Bigfoot suit?
I was pretty big then. I have shed 50 lbs since that picture taken Dec 09.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 10:56 AM
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I know, it's not the girth , it's the contrast between how tall you are and how short he is.
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I know, it's not the girth , it's the contrast between how tall you are and how short he is.
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Is this a new Mid Atlantic Rover event?
Brokeback Rover?
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:02 AM
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Even then... It's still a little straaaaange...lol
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:16 AM
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I know, it's not the girth , it's the contrast between how tall you are and how short he is.
I was leaning into that picture for some reason. I was nearly 2ft taller than that guy. RenChing went over to him in a busy bar In Bradford Yorkshire and asked him to take his picture with me.
Normaly I'd have said f that but after being awake for 50 some hours straight and gallons of bitter in me, I played along with Dave's sense of humor.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:31 AM
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FWIW since this thread is supposed to be about 200's. I had a client 110 come in with a broken timing belt.
As we all know these are interference engines . I told the guy we could try putting new push rods in, (they were bent up like a bundle of snakes- had to use a claw hammer and a block of wood to pull them out) install a new belt kit and see what happened. Since removing the head has nothing to do with the front cover or timing belt this seemed like the most financially expedient route. Truck seems to run fine. The fact that the valves are perpendicular in the head and meet the piston top squarely apparently makes it so they aren't likely to bend. I spent some time reading up on this on other forums and some guys in the UK were saying they have broken 3 belts and never had to pull the cyl head. I found myself in awe that anyone could be so unintelligent as to have broken three belts but that's another matter.
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I rather be replacing bent push rods than valves any day... The only time I've ever had to replace bent valves is when one of my doofuses sucked a rag into the engine of my 200tdi...
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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:41 AM
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So your saying Bobeck is kind of kinky?

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Old August 15th, 2014, 11:41 AM
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I found myself in awe that anyone could be so unintelligent as to have broken three belts but that's another matter.
Sometimes the stupid things just go. Mine went last year at 40000 km. No real reason, all OEM parts.

I now carry a set of push rods and a timing belt in my off road kit...

The 300TDIs seem to break rockers as well, but the 200s only bend the push rods.
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Too funny, Gulliver. You were bent like one of those Tdi pushrods.

You and the lilliputian in that photo were both good sports. The picture is priceless.

I was more than a bit gone too. I had to leave the last pint on the bar, it wouldn't fit. Better than leaving it in the gutter along with the contents of my gut.

Everyone we encountered kept telling me they couldn't tell from Doug's emails that he was that big.

I still can't figure out how one can discern someone's size from an email.

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Lol, I didn't tell them to hug. Just stand next to each other for size reference. And yeah, I hope to never become predictable...
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