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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:10 AM
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Hi,

I own a quite special truck, a 1986 LR 110, 5 doors, V8, LHD, A/C with proven 40.000km only.

The car (chassis SALLDHMV8BA251439 ) was shipped to Dubai and sold by the well-known local agent to the Dubai government. It was later resold to one of its employee who gave it to his nephew. From whom I bought it 11 years ago, used it in Dubai to go to the beach before taking it with me to Belgium where the car is now registered as a classic car.

Due to lack of driving, the engine is not working. All other mechanical parts are in excellent condition. The frame is well protect by a thick lay of Dinitrol. The body (doors) and interior (seats, dashboard) are less inviting. All rubber parts should be changed … But the whole is absolutely original: paint (Slate grey), engine, A/C, no mods at all.

In my opinion, it is a perfect rig for a “like new” V8 “Defender” project.

The trouble is that I need an Expedition Defender, for a very long trip, with diesel engine, pop up roof, dual batteries, better headlights, etc.

So my question: should I sell my truck to an American enthusiast? And buy a newer, ready to go and fully equipped expedition one? Or rebuild the one I own now, with a 300 TDI ?
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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:19 AM
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Hi,

I own a quite special truck, a 1986 LR 110, 5 doors, V8, LHD, A/C with proven 40.000km only.

The car (chassis SALLDHMV8BA251439 ) was shipped to Dubai and sold by the well-known local agent to the Dubai government. It was later resold to one of its employee who gave it to his nephew. From whom I bought it 11 years ago, used it in Dubai to go to the beach before taking it with me to Belgium where the car is now registered as a classic car.

Due to lack of driving, the engine is not working. All other mechanical parts are in excellent condition. The frame is well protect by a thick lay of Dinitrol. The body (doors) and interior (seats, dashboard) are less inviting. All rubber parts should be changed … But the whole is absolutely original: paint (Slate grey), engine, A/C, no mods at all.

In my opinion, it is a perfect rig for a “like new” V8 “Defender” project.

The trouble is that I need an Expedition Defender, for a very long trip, with diesel engine, pop up roof, dual batteries, better headlights, etc.

So my question: should I sell my truck to an American enthusiast? And buy a newer, ready to go and fully equipped expedition one? Or rebuild the one I own now, with a 300 TDI ?
Rebuild to suit your own style and comfort and then if something goes wrong you know exactly where to look and not guessing.

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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:34 AM
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I get it running take good pictures and sell it to a US buyer as an export. Take that money and buy a good condition later model TDI that you can outfit for expedition.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:41 AM
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I get it running take good pictures and sell it to a US buyer as an export. Take that money and buy a good condition later model TDI that you can outfit for expedition.
I second that.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:45 AM
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I second that.


Third. Your truck would sell for enough here to finance the greater part of your expedition vehicle


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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:52 AM
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hmm...isn't it just cheaper to throw in the 300tdi?

I could be totally wrong about the market, but it seems to me that no matter how nice the '86 is, it's not going to get a lot of money in the US without a running engine.

I mean, the OP has to buy a replacement truck as well, which...um....seems like a costly endeavor (and risky, given that the new truck may be inferior in some respects to the current one). Maybe he'll come out even on a 300tdi swap, but then how much is he saving in effort to sell the old truck, find a new truck, buy the new truck, etc?
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Old September 12th, 2017, 10:33 PM
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I'd get it running then sell in the US. Then buy a TD5 or newer already kitted out.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 11:58 PM
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I agree. It would cost a lot of money and take a lot of work to turn it into what you want. It makes more sense to sell it to a US buyer and then buy a Td5 for the expedition.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 12:30 AM
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If registered in Belgium and they allow engine swaps, I'd contact Foley in England and ship it there to have it converted to diesel and prepare it for the trip. Foley know their stuff.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 01:52 AM
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I get it running take good pictures and sell it to a US buyer as an export. Take that money and buy a good condition later model TDI that you can outfit for expedition.
Exactly. It's LHD, not crusty, all factory with A/C, and U.S. importable! Done deal.

1986 so that's a 3.5? Not working means? Cranking? Seized? Spark? Fuel? It's not like something happened to it, right? It just sat. I'll bet a reputable indie shop will make you mobile for less than $500US. If the rest of the truck is good to great, minus some cosmetics and aesthetics, then you'll make enough dough to buy a reliable expedition worthy tdi from a reputable person/outfit, kit it out, and still eat regularly.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 10:13 AM
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A used td5 in good condition in Belgium goes for 40-50,000 EU. And that's for a MY2000 truck.

I don't know much, but the economics of the "sell the old truck to buy a new one" doesn't sound right to me. Unless you guys really think Xavier can pull 40k USD for an engineless truck.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:14 AM
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His needs are specific. Make it into an expedition vehicle.
That's why I suggested flipping to diesel. The increase in range is so important.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 11:28 AM
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If this expedition vehicle is really going to be what you say, then you should begin with a vehicle that is in better condition with the powertrain you want. If I am any judge, the cost of base vehicle being converted is a only part of the final price; a 40000 truck being converted into a 150000 expedition truck.
If you're doing the conversion yourself, even more reason to start with a good base so you can concentrate on the actual conversion and not on doing a complete restoration first before you even bolt in a water tank. Talk about a buzzkill...
I know all too well how restoration can get stalled. You don't want to be months and months into a bunch of mechanical issues.
Frankly, a Defender would not be the top of my list for such a conversion but that's just me.
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Old September 17th, 2017, 10:57 AM
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Thanks Guys for your contributions. I will first try to have the V5 3.5 running. And keep you informed.
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