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Mercedes OM617 Powered 110 Build Up

The starting vehicle:
1986 110 with 2.5 liter Petrol engine, leaking fuel tank, and interior and under hood area covered in carpet and other sound deadening material.

Purchased from a UK dealer. It was used by DRA for flight testing of countermeasures equipment. Unique in that it had 44,500 miles and was without front vents presumably to cut down on noise and interference.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:09 AM
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OM617 Prototype

We had been working on the Mercedes OM617 5 cyl Turbo Diesel conversion for several years. The first conversion was in a 109 that originally had the Rover I_O_E 6 cylinder. It needed a thick adapter to push the engine out from the concave bulkhead, but the same adapter put the oil pickup for the sump right over the tube of the front diff, so it was clear a thinner adapter was necessary. The breakthrough came through this summer when we were able to shrink the adapter width to just under 2 inches.

Then we needed to keep the stock oil filter housing, so added a slight tilt to clear the bulkhead.

We were also prototyping the same conversion in a Series III, 88 and had an engine installed in a second vehicle making the prototyping that much more complicated.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:21 AM
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Flywheel

Flywheel shown next to the original Mercedes counterpart from an OM617 automatic setup.
Designed for the Land Rover pilot bushing and drilled for the Land Rover Clutch, but uses the stock OM617 ring gear.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

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UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:26 AM
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The Adapter

Thin adapter stiffened with a steel backing plate.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:32 AM
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Awesome, definitely interested in the outcome of this. Do you have a kit available already, and a cost?
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Custom Oil Pan for the 110

With the oil pickup just behind the front diff tube, designed a custom oil pan.
The top half is cast and the bottom constructed. This was not easy, but eliminated the clearance issues and could be easily designed to compensate for the slight engine tilt necessary to keep the stock oil filter housing with the stock oil cooler lines and all the thermo valves and spring loaded this and that...

The back of the OM617 stock oil pump housing is cast as one piece that includes the oil pickup assembly. In order to build a rear sump, it requires manufacturing the back half of the oil pump from scratch in order to take a long pickup tube. I did this successfully years ago (for a Classic RR conversion) that never went into production because it was too expensive to produce.

Note the baffle to keep the oil from running back when on a steep incline. The oil pump is complicated with a relief valve that recirculates unused oil making it great for off-road use. This is unlike most oil pump designs that simply dump unneeded pressure and volume back into the sump area of the pan.

So you can see how important it was to space the engine back enough in both the 110 and the Series III, thus the short adapter shown above...

In the 110, to clear the front diff (eliminating the need to modify the suspension).
In the Series 88 & 109, to clear the stock radiator and leave the stock 4 cylinder bulkhead and transmission unaltered and unmodified.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:46 AM
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Ready to install

$300 Engine out of Pick-N-Pull ready for a test fit... still has the junk paint markings on the front of the valve cover.
The only thing the engine required were new glow plugs and a valve adjustment.
We used a gear reduction starter which started the engine for the first time without any glow...
Ten minutes after this picture was taken the engine started when we were testing the starter, fell off the cart, and required me st scramble to get a hand on the throttle linkage to shut it off !!!
Sounds a little funny now, but was scary at the time.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:51 AM
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110 Motor Mounts

Used the later and larger "hydraulic" motor mounts that bolt to the stock 4 cyl frame mounts.
In the 109 prototype of 2010, at idle the engine shook the bodywork violently until we used the thinner stock mounts from the 300D. Since I was making the mounts anyway, decided to go with these mounts. The result was very little vibration at idle and none at speed.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Old December 28th, 2012, 07:55 AM
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Up and Running 110 Daily Driver

It has about 7,500 miles now and with intercooler and boost set @ 14 PSI runs at about 73 - 75 MPH on flat ground.
Economy is not fantastic coming it at around 20MPG combined driving. Less when your foot is deep into the petal to stay above 70 MPH. Haven't tried any alternate fuels yet in this setup, but ran our 300TD Wagon with the same engine on a little WVO here and there and it always ran fine. The prospect of free fuel is interesting and when ever I have some time will look into it more closely.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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110 Body change

After pulling all the carpet and cutting the rear door in half (more later).
Picture of the end result...

Will be installing AC this spring using the Mercedes AC compressor and a 300TDI Defender under dash interior unit (more later)
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Series III Radiator Clearance

Since we were working parallel on the Series III, here is a picture of the OM617 in our 88 with radiator clearance to spare, just removed the 2.25 4 cyl and dropped in the OM617. Stock 4 cyl bulkhead, radiator, and all...
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

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UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Series III Radaitor Clearance Picture

Series III Radiator Clearance Picture with stock radiator. Pusher fan needed, but plenty of room to pass a fan belt through between the water pump nose and back side of the radiator. In the IIA, the thinner Series III radiator is required.
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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"What's with this death wobble, Uncle Douglas, I can't keep it in 1 lane?"
UD: "Just Power through it man!"
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Nice. Jarek put one of these in his Disco I this year/last year.

http://njlr.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=290

And over on the Guns and Rovers site they mention you having a conversion kit for the Merc diesel.

http://siteground237.com/~gunsandr/s...r-Mercedes-Jim
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Nice. Jarek put one of these in his Disco I
Yes met Jarek for the first time at the Conclave this fall where he had his Gold Disco and I had the 1986 White 110 Pickup. Nice guy. We exchanged some test drives.

Our daughter's best friend, Nina who is also Polish was there and she and Jarek were talking up a storm in Polish, so we were all instant friends.

I only tried the OM617 in a Classic RR, but Jarek managed in the Disco I.
Might revisit this in a year or so after producing some of what is already prototyped for the Defenders and Series 88 & 109.
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I know it's an odd thing to be impressed with, but it's nuts how quiet it ran when we were up at Winter Romp
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I was behind your group at Conclave when the Series needed a pull. Nice D-110 and conversion.
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Conclave

Yes the 110 Pickup ran all over the trails... it was the real test and with all those rocks to go over we had no oil pan clearance issues, so all the measuring and custom work paid off. It also climbed pretty well considering stock suspension and 40 PSI in the tires.

The Cove was a great event... auction was slow and not managed very well, but we got through it and still had fun. The trails were good and it was also nice to be in the company of Mike VanCuren, who passed away shortly thereafter. I miss his friendship and visits...
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Uncle "Richard" Douglas has a Land Rover with big wheels that never gets stuck... until he breaks something so it won't go. Uncle Douglas always breaks something. - Anna Crowther at the Conclave 2012 (AKA Carburetor Neck)

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Robert who imports your trucks for you ?

FWIW dad and I drove this about 35 miles and had it up to 75 but also ran it on winding mountain roads and it does very well. Definitely smoother than the tdi's. Robert has a year of his life and a ton of money invested in machine work and perfecting prototypes. Lost track of how many times he's had that engine in and out again getting it just right.
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