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Old March 31st, 2016, 05:20 PM
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Okay, I'll revise it using a barbed elbow and some 1" heavy wall 3:1 adhesive heat shrink tubing.
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Old March 31st, 2016, 07:33 PM
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Just go to your local auto parts store and find a random piece of hose the right diameter with an elbow.
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Old April 1st, 2016, 12:18 AM
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I have to re-use the special quick-connect fittings. I got a 3/4" barbed brass elbow from Home Depot and mated it with the heavy duty heat shrink. I think it's better now.





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Hi,

I'm thinkin to do the same in a Series 2A chasis, M54 + R380. Right now I'm working in the frame, welding and putting in place, then I will install a discovery axles with brake discs. Car was build in 1966 with a 2-1/4 diesel engine.

As far as understood I have to take a bellhousing from 2.5 diesel P38, but what about engine side? Will match the same plate installed in the 2.5bmw p38? and the kit clutch? and the slave cilinder? here it's easy to have p38 diesel parts but I don't know if M54 and 2500 p38 engine have the same plates between engine and gearbox. Can you help me on this?

Them probably I will have a problem of space in the engine bay, I have to measure a M54...

thank's in advance to everybody for your help

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Old April 1st, 2016, 04:35 PM
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Welcome to the forum Joan! The bellhousing parts, clutch, and flywheel have been discussed in this thread. You'll have to read a few pages back. The rear piece of the bellhousing is different between the P38 2.5 diesel and the Defender 2.8i. I compared them in pictures in this thread. Whichever you use will dictate which input shaft for the R380 you need, and also which pilot bushing or bearing. P38 2.5 diesel uses a unique input shaft, but a standard BMW pilot bearing. Defender 2.8i uses a standard 300Tdi input shaft, but a unique Oilite bronze pilot bushing. Both use the same clutch (Valeo), dual mass flywheel (LuK), and slave cylinder. I listed the part numbers for those parts in this thread. Good reading, good researching, and good luck!

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Welcome to the forum Joan! The bellhousing parts, clutch, and flywheel have been discussed in this thread. You'll have to read a few pages back. The rear piece of the bellhousing is different between the P38 2.5 diesel and the Defender 2.8i. I compared them in pictures in this thread. Whichever you use will dictate which input shaft for the R380 you need, and also which pilot bushing or bearing. P38 2.5 diesel uses a unique input shaft, but a standard BMW pilot bearing. Defender 2.8i uses a standard 300Tdi input shaft, but a unique Oilite bronze pilot bushing. Both use the same clutch (Valeo), dual mass flywheel (LuK), and slave cylinder. I listed the part numbers for those parts in this thread. Good reading, good researching, and good luck!

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Thanks Andrew! I missed some pages of the post, sorry! now it's ok. Once I start I will post
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Old April 4th, 2016, 02:50 PM
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I got my rear step bumper installed. It was kind of a PITA, lol. At first, I wasn’t sure how to slide it on far enough to put the 4 upper bolts in because the fuel tank tray was sticking out too far. I guess it tried to flatten out a bit when it was galvanized. So I held up each side with two floor jacks and pieces of wood. That worked. But then the 2 lower bolt holes on the fuel tank mountings didn’t line up. Maybe they’re a little off now since we replaced the rear crossmember. I finally got bolts in them after using a floor jack to push up the rear of the bumper and prying on it.



Thanks to Brian Kandefer for the special washers.



A bunch of parts arrived from the UK today.

My brake pedal is wobbly side to side, plus the box is kinda rusty, so I got a new one. It’s nice and firm. I got a new servo to go with it. I’m not sure if I actually need a new one of those but the old one is old and kinda rusty. Now every single part of the braking system will be new.



I’ve been researching the accelerator pedal a bit and it looks like the pedal for the Puma operates the same as a BMW pedal, so I got one of those to test. Hopefully that works out because it was quite expensive. A funny thing about it is that it was made in the USA, which sort of makes sense I suppose since the Puma engine is Ford.



The lower portion of the steering column and the lower mounting bracket is pretty rusty, and probably needs the bearings replaced, so I got a new one. The UK/ROW catalogue shows shims (packing pieces) between the bulkhead and the lower mounting bracket. The NAS catalogue doesn’t show that and they don’t seem to be present on my truck, so I didn’t order them.



I’m relocating the windscreen washer reservoir so here’s the Puma version.



I think my dash moulding will have holes in it after I take off the Diavia A/C controls, and it’s kinda dingy looking, so I got a new one in dark granite color. It’s for XA and newer trucks (NLA for older trucks), so hopefully there aren’t any major differences.



I got new runners for rebuilding my front seats. My old ones are kinda rusty and are difficult to slide. Maybe they’re serviceable, but I decided it’s probably better to just start fresh.



I got new seat belts for the front seats. The plastic on the upper mount of my old ones is all cracked and they’re old so I decided they should be replaced. Safety first.

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Where'd you get the seat runners? Both of mine are cracked.
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Where'd you get the seat runners? Both of mine are cracked.
Safari sells them
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Where'd you get the seat runners? Both of mine are cracked.
I got them from lrdirect.com. I ordered HHD102280 (RH) and HHD102290 (LH). They're supplied by Britpart, but they seem to be good quality.

If you want genuine LR for about $200 more, they are LR045271 (RH) and LR045272 (LH).
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Safari sells them

Steven mentioned to me on Facebook or on here that he probably had some, but never got back to me when I messaged him.

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I got them from lrdirect.com. I ordered HHD102280 (RH) and HHD102290 (LH). They're supplied by Britpart, but they seem to be good quality.

If you want genuine LR for about $200 more, they are LR045271 (RH) and LR045272 (LH).


Yeah I saw Rovers North has them for around $350 or so which is half way to new seats! I'll see about getting a set from the UK.
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Old April 5th, 2016, 03:48 PM
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Mine were made by exmoor.. Or at least branded.
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Old April 5th, 2016, 04:08 PM
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I don't think Exmoor sells them anymore. At least I can't find them on their site.
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Old April 14th, 2016, 02:04 PM
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My friend Curt helped me make a bracket for the P38 steering box and the panhard rod.

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Old April 19th, 2016, 06:27 PM
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Today my friend Curt helped me patch up the rusty footwells on the bulkhead. We went to the metal yard and got a sheet of steel. He cut it with his plasma torch and bent them on the press with a brake he made. Then after he cut the rust out on the bulkhead, he welded them on and put vulkem on the edges. Still have to put the inner fender bracket back on the driver's side. I can see why the footwells rust out so easily. Two thin layers of metal put together and unprotected on the inside so it just rusts from within. I think it’s a relatively poor design. There was some rubber, for sound deadening I suppose, in-between the footwell layers in the lower part. It wanted to catch fire when welding. So given those characteristics of its design, I don’t think it would be a good idea to galvanize a bulkhead.



The alternator actually fits in the original spot, but it touches the P38 steering box. We could have mounted the steering box a little lower but we wanted to use the sleeved holes in the chassis. So Curt helped me make a bracket to mount the alternator up a little higher. I may just need to get a longer belt. This particular alternator has a 3rd mounting hole on the side too that’s not needed. I checked online and other alternators for this engine don’t have that 3rd mounting hole, so we cut that off too for extra space.



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What rubber is between the thin layers of metal in the bulkhead?

How would that be possible?
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maybe you had some prior work done on your footwells, but there shouldn't be any rubber sandwiched between layers of metal.

Anyway, looking good. We all should have a Curt.
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After all that work and you did not use proper footwell repair panels ....

For shame.
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I get the impression from Chip that this particular bulkhead is intended as a throwaway.

Probably already in his head that a new bulkhead will be going in in the future...this is probably just a temp fix to get the build finished. Classic chicken and egg problem with rebuilds, especially custom ones!
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Oh that makes sense. It is just the proper replacement panels are a few hundred bucks and given how amazing this project is I was surprised with the scrap metal repair.
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