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Old December 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM
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85 D90 frame up (well up to the body anyway)

Rebuilding my 85 D90 that sadly blew its lt77 (and already had a 2.5NA)

Rather than rebuild/replace transmission I figured I could kill myself by spending a mountain of $$ on a 300 TDI, R380, 24 spline axles (from disco 1) which need to be swapped from LHD to RHD, and a new Marslands galvanized frame.

Thanks to Tom for the axles and the second hand springs and shocks

Also thanks to Dave at Urban in ATL for the pile -o- parts

Rebuilding the 300 TDI as follows:
New head gasket (you mean the block isnt supposed to be waxoiled?)
Head Bolts
Exhaust Manifold
Timing Belt
Water Pump
Thermostat
Clutch (bellhousing came sans internals)
Rear Main Seal

Frame:
Galvanized Chassis
Terrafirma Medium Duty Springs/shocks
New motor/Transmission Mounts/shock mounts/turrets

Body:
NOT DOING IT! I am kinda digging the whole hand painted 80s strip (for now)
Plus, lets face it, if I start taking it apart Ill be doing a LHD conversion before I know it

Teardown has begun, the body has been disconnected from the old frame, the engine and transmission have been placed on the new frame, with the axles to follow this week.

Pics tomorrow!
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Old December 5th, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Good luck! I hope you have a lot of space.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 08:50 PM
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Does a driveway count? I guess being outside is like having infinite space...
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Does a driveway count? I guess being outside is like having infinite space...
People make it sound difficult but it's not.

The worst part is rusted fasteners. If your fasteners come off easily/quickly, then one person can take off all the body panels off the truck in a single weekend.

The second worst part is new stainless fasteners. You'll need a lot of them. But once you get over the sticker shock, it's quick and easy.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 10:05 PM
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If your fasteners come off easily/quickly
if by easily you mean sheared off then yes and a snapped bolt could be considered quick.

Worst is over, the majority of the tub bolts were forced to concede (or coerced with expletives)...
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Me, a can of pb blaster, my trusty plugs in the wall dewalt 1/2in impact driver with some six point sockets and wrenches and I can turn any land rover into a pile of parts in a day. Of course I have taken apart quite a few (and only put together a couple).

Do not use stainless steel fasteners where they touch aluminum as they will eat the aluminum. Regular plated slathered in anti-seize and then sprayed with waxoyl after they are installed will work fine.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 09:37 AM
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PB was my best friend, my impact was underpowered, its certainly time for me to upgrade to a 1/2 plug in...

The new axles look great, now comes the parts barrage, the engine will be a bit of a job, the head gasket is my main concern currently, wondering if it is worth wrenching myself, need to search the forum for a how-to
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Old December 6th, 2012, 11:22 AM
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PB was my best friend, my impact was underpowered, its certainly time for me to upgrade to a 1/2 plug in...
Don't forget that a little heat applied in the right places can help break free some of the more difficult parts.
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biggest headache is the combination of metric and standard bolts on everything. Just when you think its metric, oops.

Combined with the fact that some of the bolts were practically rounded by mother nature
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Do not use stainless steel fasteners where they touch aluminum as they will eat the aluminum. Regular plated slathered in anti-seize and then sprayed with waxoyl after they are installed will work fine.
Yeah I have heard this, I am predicting a body restoration next year so hopefully anti-seize will suffice for now.

Also, waited 5 minutes and the weather in New England changed... went from 60 yesterday to 40 today... Body is getting lifted this weekend, hopefully with an influx of parts and some serious determination I can meet my restoration deadline
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Are you doing the body as one whole piece?
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that is the plan, not sure I want to start removing bolts from the body and see what cannot be unseen
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that is the plan, not sure I want to start removing bolts from the body and see what cannot be unseen
To each his own, but it is pretty easy to get it down to managable chunks. Tub/seatbox/sills; bulkhead with everything attached; doors; windscreen, roof with sides attached, fenders, hood, core support for radiator.
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To each his own, but it is pretty easy to get it down to managable chunks. Tub/seatbox/sills; bulkhead with everything attached; doors; windscreen, roof with sides attached, fenders, hood, core support for radiator.
I am slowly converting, I think it may be in my best interest to proceed in this manner
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When / if i do another one I am going to keep the body intact. Once you take it all apart ship fitters will set in and it is hard to stop.

As someone who is in the middle of one trust me, I wish I had moved it one chunk.
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my fear exactly, well we have votes for both, anyone else want to weigh in?
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I'll chime in - it's tomorrow!

Seriously pics would help, but describe the condition of the bulkhead as that would be what would make the decision for me personally. If the bulkhead was rust free I'd try lift the body in one piece, otherwise you are going this far I'd fix the bulkhead too.

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duffed it, I know, battery was dead on the digital... taking photos with the phone seemed very time consuming
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Pictures of the Truck and bulkhead
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Galvanized frame, 300 TDI, axles
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