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Old January 23rd, 2008, 10:21 AM
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83 110 coversion to soft top with cage.

just bought a rhd 83 110. i will be converting it to a softtop/opentop for summer driving. i will have a full rollcage. hopefully down the road i will convert the 3.5l to 4.2 and make it automatic. more to come as i gain progress.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 10:39 AM
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As they say... "This Thread Is Worthless Without Pictures!!" .. so post em up!
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 05:19 PM
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Why would you put a 4.2 in?....
So, you're trying to do a East Coast Rover "Beach Runner"? type of truck?....have any pics?
Will you be converting to LHD?

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Old January 23rd, 2008, 05:55 PM
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yes, i want to do something very similar. i love the looks of that beach runner! mike and the guys at east coast rovers put out some great looking rigs. i know i can't afford one, so.... i will be keeping this truck right handed. i would do the engine swap primarily because of the fuel injection. i have asked mike about a couple cage pieces hopefully he can give me some advise on those. but will post some pictures when i get a little further along with it.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 07:30 PM
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Sounds interesting,....if possible though, I would stay away from the 4.2,...but that's just my .02
As far as getting help from Mike at ECR,.....well, I would venture to guess that those trucks have quite a bit of custom fabrication, and I doubt he or anyone that might work there would be so forthcoming with just "handing over" information on how it's done. But, good luck and get those pictures rolling,.....
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Old January 24th, 2008, 08:46 AM
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carey, we are all friends here. mike is a nice guy. i am not asking for secret plans or anything just advise on some mount brackets. i will post the pictures after the cage in installed. pretty chilly up in rockport this tme of year. nice area. what's that local micro brew? ship yard?
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Hey Mark, I wasn't implying an "unfriendly" atmosphere,...just thinking out loud
Local brew, I believe there are a few actually, I've only been here for a few months so still getting the lay of land. Good Luck with the build.
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Mike at ECR is on this site frequently Id let him speak for himself. He generally is very forthcoming on advice...
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i hope to here from him soon. mike are you out there??
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Yeah, but I'd bet money I might know what he's thinking.
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I think most of the needed info can be extracted from the BR110 pix. Its straightforward in conception if complex in execution. The only unknowns from my standpoint are the attachment points holding the hoop to the B-pillar and how the C-Pillar integrates to the underbody structure.
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jim, i have looked at the pictures but can make out the attchments. the bar that connects to the t-supports. that is where i want to make a strong connection with some sor of bracket. i am almost to that point and would love some expert advise. the truck is for me as a summer truck. the kids keep us busy all the time. just some added safety. so mike, if you are out there.....can you help me out??
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This is what I want to do too, except I am even too cheap to go with a full cage I'd love to see pics as you progress though.

In the beach runner writeup Mike clearly shows the roll cage bars all connect to give the strength. i am sure making the brackets to connect the t-support to the rest of the cage is trivial and the least of your worries.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/BeachRunner.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/BR110/BR11019.jpg
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/BR110/BR11020.jpg

The big cost are all the NAS roll cage bits!
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well, i got some of it done last night. your second picture with the big green arrow is the area i am talking about. i would like to see that bracket used. i would like that bar solid because my kids and friends are going to want to hang on it.
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some pics with rear tire carrier, tailgate, rear cage section.
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I can't tell if the BR 110 has the front-rear horizontal rail connected to the B-pillar hoop. I always assumed it wasnt there, but on closer inspection it seems it might have one. it seems odd that the B-pillar would be sufficient to support itself since it has to carr the rear doors. The only picture with a clue is the one from above during the fitting of the custom top - in that pic it looks like the rails are connected. It would seem like the best solution would be a tube section coming off the horizontal bar. Not having a t-piece in front of me, I would be thinking about something that would slot down into it - how about a close up of the top of the t-piece?

How are you dealing with the oval profile of the B-pillar hoop? Did you find some oval-section tubing? (I think there is such a thing). Another alternative would be to bend standad tube into the correct arc, then send it to Just Dashes to be built out and covered with textured vinyl to match the rest of the cage.

If you have any sack at all you'll paint this G4 orange, but it would look good in Bonatti grey also. I would even cheer for Borrego Yellow.

Did you have to shorten the cantrails? And also, what are you doing to the part of the cage that the (now) C-pillar hoop sits on? The seatbelt retractors mount to this normally, but it doesnt look like it would directly fit as it did in the 90.
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Is it possible to find another roll cage (expensive, I know), have it attached to the opposite side of the B pillar?

The part in yellow is what I'm referring to.
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Problem is its wider than the upright and then you'd have to make the doors seal somehow.
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