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Old April 8th, 2014, 09:08 AM
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72 series 3 88"

I've been casually looking for a series project for a couple of months and decided to pull the trigger on this one. Almost all of the ones I looked at had decent bodies and junk frames/drivetrain. This one is the opposite, it has a newer galvy frame, chevy 250 swap, replaced springs and a fairey overdrive. However, the body needs a lot of loving. So far I haven't done much other than putting in a new clutch slave, which I actually did twice because I out it in upside the first time. It wouldn't have been that big of a deal, but the Scotty bell housing adapter pushes the slave cylinder directly above a frame crossmember which makes it very hard to get at. I need to bleed it again before I can try to actually drive it around.

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Does anyone know if that bonnet alignment is correct? I feel like it has an unusually large gap between the bonnet and fenders.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 11:10 AM
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nice!

glad to see that you are restoring a rover.... my only advice is that you get rid of the chevy motor cause all its going to do is cause you problems... instead drop in a 2 1/4 liter motor... the chevy is too much torque for the tranny and u joints
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Old April 8th, 2014, 11:16 AM
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glad to see that you are restoring a rover.... my only advice is that you get rid of the chevy motor cause all its going to do is cause you problems... instead drop in a 2 1/4 liter motor... the chevy is too much torque for the tranny and u joints
Yea I've read that and it makes sense. On the other hand, I haven't seen any first hand accounts of it happening, not saying that it hasn't.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 11:28 AM
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this happen to me way before the internet exsisted!

i bought a 74 109 santana with scottys conversion... and i went through u-joints like i changed underwear! the coupe de gras was the tranny twisting breaking the tranny mounts and lifting the seat box!

nightmare! got rid of it ... last i heard someone had dropped in a 2 1/4 ltr...
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Old April 8th, 2014, 11:34 AM
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this happen to me way before the internet exsisted!

i bought a 74 109 santana with scottys conversion... and i went through u-joints like i changed underwear! the coupe de gras was the tranny twisting breaking the tranny mounts and lifting the seat box!

nightmare! got rid of it ... last i heard someone had dropped in a 2 1/4 ltr...
Haha. Well now I am a believer.
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Old April 12th, 2014, 07:01 PM
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Put some new running lights on and busted out the gopro.

Brake pedal isn't returning, I'll try bleeding them tomorrow, hopefully I don't have to order a new MC. Truck is plated now so I've been causally driving it around.
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Old April 12th, 2014, 08:28 PM
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That's a nice one and good luck with your restoration! ...
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Old April 21st, 2014, 08:19 PM
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You did the right thing by getting a Series with good bones!

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I've been casually looking for a series project for a couple of months and decided to pull the trigger on this one. Almost all of the ones I looked at had decent bodies and junk frames/drivetrain. This one is the opposite, it has a newer galvy frame, chevy 250 swap, replaced springs and a fairey overdrive. However, the body needs a lot of loving. So far I haven't done much other than putting in a new clutch slave, which I actually did twice because I out it in upside the first time. It wouldn't have been that big of a deal, but the Scotty bell housing adapter pushes the slave cylinder directly above a frame crossmember which makes it very hard to get at. I need to bleed it again before I can try to actually drive it around.

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Does anyone know if that bonnet alignment is correct? I feel like it has an unusually large gap between the bonnet and fenders.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 01:55 PM
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I haven't done too much lately as I don't have a garage while I'm school. I did bleed the brakes the other day, I now have a pedal on the second pump. Everything I have read says that this is most likely due to the snail cams needing to be adjusted. Hopefully I can get it sorted while here in cuse.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 02:12 PM
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Also in looking into putting disco axles under this at some point over the summer. Looking to do it for the brakes, stronger axle shafts and increased width between the wheels.

Will the stock brake booster work with the disco calipers?

Do you need to modify the props hafts to do this?
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Old April 27th, 2014, 02:44 PM
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You biggest issue is going to be the steering links and the leaf springs wanting to be in the same place.

Booster and master cylinder will be fine.

-Jeff
Yea I read that somewhere, I guys have had good luck using a 2" spacer to get the clearance.

I found a pretty decent bulkhead locally but is from a series 2 or 2a? Will this work on the series 3? With modifications? Without modification? Thanks for all of the help so far guys.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 05:33 PM
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Are these springs any good? Just wondering if anyone knows anything about them.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 05:47 PM
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You will be fine with the 250 if you don't drive it hard. I had a 292 in my stock 109 and it did snap a rear half shaft when i drove it hard but if you use some restraint you should be fine.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 06:32 PM
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You will be fine with the 250 if you don't drive it hard. I had a 292 in my stock 109 and it did snap a rear half shaft when i drove it hard but if you use some restraint you should be fine.
Thanks for the info. I have been driving it around and it doesn't seem that bad so I think if I'm not hammering on it from stop to stop it should be ok.

My dad has told me plenty of stories about breaking rear half shafts with the 4 banger when he had his, which is one of the reasons I want to put disco axles in.

------ Follow up post added May 5th, 2014 05:35 PM ------



Not sure if I posted this under my other thread for my old defender, but this picture always cracks me up. That's me at an AB rover rally maybe around 1990? I guess sometimes you have to stick to your roots.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 02:21 PM
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I've been busy working on the truck while I have time before I start my job.

Some updated pictures for you guys.




------ Follow up post added May 27th, 2014 01:22 PM ------

Also, four 235/85r16s should be here this week.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:04 PM
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Don't throw away ANY nuts, bolts or screws until you have sourced replacements for them -

Good luck! Looking a lot better already.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:14 PM
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Don't throw away ANY nuts, bolts or screws until you have sourced replacements for them -

Good luck! Looking a lot better already.
Most of the hardware for the seatbox was missing or unoriginal. What was left had to be cut off. I did my best to match the new hardware to OEM stuff though.
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Old June 4th, 2014, 06:06 PM
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Only a couple days left before I start work so I have been trying to get a lot done.

Here are some updated pictures.

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Old June 22nd, 2014, 08:45 AM
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Found some period correct cibie fogs w/covers and a warn belleview winch.
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 09:47 AM
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Not a fan of the black bumper bar - it will create more headaches for you if it is used as intended...seems like it would bend real quick.

Otherwise, nice work so far.
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