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Old May 14th, 2008, 06:57 PM
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300 tdi auto scratch build

HI all I thought it was about time I posted some pics of my build seeing as it is now into its 2nd year.!

It started out as a straight forward 4.2ltr auto nas copy, but after a trip to west africa via the sahara in a £90 mitsubishi shogun fitted with a 2.8 ltr diesel that averaged 30MPG, a major decision was taken to swap the engine to a diesel in the name of fuel economy as petrol is £1.22ltr in the uk at the moment.

At a stroke I had to remake the engine mounts and buy a 300tdi and autobox from a discovery it was the search for the engine and box that took almost a year.

I have had a lot of idea's (plagerism is a word for it) from the other guys on the site ..many thanks




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Old May 14th, 2008, 07:41 PM
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A freshly galvanized chassis always gives me the warm fuzzies.........

Nice work!
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Old May 15th, 2008, 02:18 PM
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What paint did you use on the chassis?
Did it stick and stay stuck to the zinc?
Coming along nicely... 2 years quite quick then. See
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Old May 15th, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Hi Mike I used "T wash" on the fresh galved parts and then a coat of chassis black as supplied by "the paint man" who is at sodbury sortout every year.

I have been climbing over the chassis for 2 yrs and it does not flake off and is difficult to chip, I was told to leave the galved parts outside to weather before painting or use "T wash", as leaving the bits on my drive is not an option as i am already as popular as the clap in a nunnery with my neighbours.

yes 2yrs has flown, along with my spare cash but hopefully will be done before winter, I reserve the right to say which year though.


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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:20 AM
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I am already as popular as the clap in a nunnery with my neighbours.
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LOL, I haven't heard that one before, but I think I'll have to add it to my arsenal!
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:28 AM
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Hi Gren,
Where did you get your T wash?
The galvanised parts that I painted didn't keep the paint on too well
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Just finished painting my galvanised chassis today... The chassis had weathered for nigh on a year, so according to 'the web', it only needed a hot water power wash and a coat of wash primer. I finished off with a top coat of one-part gloss black enamel. I can't remember which site I got the info from, but a search for 'painting galvanised surfaces' returned a ton of good info.

I'll give it another day to dry (44 Centigrade today!) and then see how easily it chips when I start bolting bits back on. Has anyone else gone this route? Did the paint stay on?

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Old May 16th, 2008, 08:37 AM
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Old May 16th, 2008, 08:46 AM
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I'd be better off leaving it unpainted then
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Old May 16th, 2008, 08:57 AM
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mine has been fine with me clambering over it and working on it, I once made a pair of rock sliders that i had galved and then painted, the first wash and the paint fell off.!
I have washed the chassis and its is fine though i have not pressure washed it.

suck it and see.. the T wash cost me £6 for 2ltrs from a car paint factor.
try it on a sample, 2 ltrs was plenty to do the chassis and all the brackets and xmember etc.

I intend to spray the chassis with waxoil anyway so washing it will not be such an issue


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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:05 AM
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The paint stayed on fine while I was working on the chassis, but has gradually come off over the last 2-3 years. I prepped the chassis pretty carefully with etching solution and it wasnt super-fresh galv either.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 11:34 AM
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Galvy coating ...

I have worked intensively with galvanized items when I was working as a mechanic on the snow plows and salting trucks and the only things I have learned for a fact is that not many thing adheres to galvanization for a very long time and unless you waxoil (any other product of that nature) the thing it is still going to rust in time if subjected to abrasion ie: road salt, sand, gravel ...

The bare galvanized coating would last 3 years max on the plows but well over 6 when protected. Note that these trucks are on the worst roads over 6 months of the year.

My 02cents.

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Old October 15th, 2008, 09:12 AM
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Hi Mike in a few words.... slow expensive frustrating & FUN.!!
A pic update for you.

all the brackets and cappings are now ready to be galved and will be done end of the month
the ready for spraying, also have to sort the shifter mount but i'll finalise that when i have the shifter console
from ashcrofts..yet another ouch.!

regards

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Old October 15th, 2008, 03:36 PM
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Do I spy an X-eng radiator cap? X-eng hand brake too??
It's looking good
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Hi Mike yep x-eng very good most pleased.!
how did the trip to morroco go? i spent march touring around morrocco with the wife in a £400 disco
fab time 38mpg ave except 18mpg in the dunes near algeria now prob at all with the car and did some wild stuff. only problems were with spanish drivers treating the entire country as a race track. i know brits off road slow but they were nuts.!
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Old October 16th, 2008, 03:17 PM
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Morocco - Brilliant, hot, drove too fast but not Spanish/French off-road raid speed. Front suspension bushes came apart, as did pattern shock turrets, the front shocks failed by the time I'd got home and the transfer box let go - teeth in the oil when I drained it All in a day's work. Little challenges to be overcome. Changed the box out in Malagar on the way home and the shocks & turrets were sorted at home.
Averaged 31 mpg overall and about 5300 miles around trip 770 ltrs of fuel, not that I was counting or anything... or even slightly worried over the fuel cost....
Glad you're pleased with the X-Eng stuff
Pic 1 hot and dusty place
pic 2 - Alli's garage Zagora, all the Landrovers spent two days there getting repaired and the staff worked through the night to get the repairs done. That wouldn't happen in GB
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Old October 17th, 2008, 10:07 AM
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Hi Randy, i dont know my mate had one on his racer for years and its very light, I needed a bonnet & saw the same type of bonnet on Ebay and bought it last week for £75, it still has a handwritten landrover factory parts label on it.
I think it is a 90/110(1982-1990)bonnet rather than a defender(1990 >)as the support frame is attached to the skin with solid rivets as oposed to blind/pop rivets used on the defenders

should stand out like balls on a bulldog @ landrover shows..if i ever finish it.!!

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HI Mike I know the garage glad you got your motor home.. lol want to buy a £500(only a slight profit) disco for your next trip, there were 2 Gwagons there when i passed one had rolled badly.

I drove the long pieste from merzugar to zagora, 100KM in i was passed by a guy on a peddle scooter
while i was having lunch, he disapeared into the heat shimmer a very surreal experience.

We off to egypt next june in a TLC though sadly the same area where 11 were snatched recently, still i know they will give the wife back after an hour of her asking to stop to look at shoes. lol!

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