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Old November 25th, 2015, 02:28 PM
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1995 RRC restore - thoughts

I have a real problem to sort through and would love your thoughts. I just recently got my defender 110 back from a year long process of restoration (good solid driver type restoration) and had planned on selling my 1995 classic once it was done. Now, I am seriously thinking about selling my 2013 Audi and sprucing up my classic. I am not looking at doing anything like the massive restoration one of the other members here did but things like head gasket, resealing engine, updating breaks, patching footwell and wheel well rust, replacing all broken interior trim bits (I have them all except the speaker covers) and possibly a repaint. Basically, getting it well sorted out mechanically and aesthetically. Estimate for all this work is probably around 8-10K as I will have to pay to have it all done. I love the classic looks and enjoy driving it and it has been our family adventure truck for the last 10 years. I would use it as a daily driver. It is probably worth roughly 5-7K in current condition based on trending prices. So, what are your thoughts? The Audi is a 2013 Allroads which I really like but there is something about the 95 classic I just love.

Would love to hear what you all think.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 04:42 PM
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I can relate - I bought my Defender assuming that I would plunder my RRC's engine & trans for it, but now I suffer from pre-separation anxiety...

Here my favorite RRC porn for your inspiration: Land Rover Specialist RR CLASSIC - Project Range Rover Classic
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Old November 25th, 2015, 05:05 PM
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Just so long as you get into this without the expectation that the thing will be any kind of investment. You'll dump thousands into it and after you're done it'll still be a $5000 truck. Do it because that's what you want to own/drive/enjoy.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 07:10 PM
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What Bill said.

I say go for it. Soubnds like you have your mind made up- my only question is, where does the 110 fit into the plan? Alternative DD?
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Old November 25th, 2015, 07:38 PM
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my 110 would be the alternate. you have to have one rover to drive to the shop and swap out for your other rover that is in the shop.

As for always a $5K truck, seems to me that these are climbing. My impression was that good condition 95s were selling for more around 10K. What am I missing?
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Old November 25th, 2015, 07:43 PM
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you aren't missing anything Bill is just grumpy....95 SWBs are hard to come by...even more so in good condition.. Should have no problem getting 10k for the truck after all the work you are proposing.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 07:47 PM
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on my95 lwb. resolving the rust issues of the cargo area and foot wells, rear cross member, front end damage due to accident, repaint, brakes, axle and differential overhaul with lockers, interior touch ups to leather seats and windshield and a few upgrades here and there.
all labor done by yours truly, still set me back nearly 14k.
if you are hiring a shop to perform these and other services you may be well into low to mid 20's realistically,
mid teens maybe if its not so bad and or corners are cut.
best of luck, hopefully you will get it done and enjoy it again.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 07:55 PM
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I still vote go for it, you can't beat a nicely cleaned up 95, best body style Range Rover they ever made.
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After my adventure with the defender and getting it up to snuff I am most definitely not up for another $15K plus project. I am looking to "spruce it up" more so than restore. It currently drives great so more of a mechanical tune up and aesthetic improvement.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 08:10 PM
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Paid $12k 95 LWB last Friday.

Just saying
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Old November 25th, 2015, 08:31 PM
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I own a bunch of Land Rovers and the RRC's have always been my goto truck. I like everything about them.
Remember the #1 Rule....Don't ever love something that doesn't love you back.
I feel you'd be money ahead....if you feel you can get 7k for your present truck...I'd take that money and throw another 3-4k on top of it and buy a very clean example. Then you just need to stay on top of things. My experience is once a Classic starts to rust you have 30-40k miles left in it before it isn't worth saving. If you have bad floors you are looking at the tip of the iceberg.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 08:45 PM
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Out of curiosity, why is this even a consideration? Do you just want to get rid of the stratospheric car payment for the Audi?

I would think that owning one modern car and one old one is preferable to having two old cars, for many reasons.

I would just sell the RRC and the Audi and buy something new, japanese and cheap for the daily. You'd save hundreds a month. But that's just me.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 08:48 PM
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Valuation has no value in this discussion. Make the truck the way you want. Drive it. Enjoy it. Maybe some day you'll sell it on. At that time you can start talking valuation. Until then it's priceless!
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Old November 25th, 2015, 09:21 PM
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Bought my first, an 89 in 94 ,and have had 6 over the past 21 years. I drive a 94 lwb daily because its what I choose to drive. My dining room table is covered with NLA classic parts. Defender parts live in the barn... just saying.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 09:28 PM
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Just so long as you get into this without the expectation that the thing will be any kind of investment. You'll dump thousands into it and after you're done it'll still be a $5000 truck. Do it because that's what you want to own/drive/enjoy.
I couldn't disagree more. 95' Classics I've had 4 of them and every single one I've sold for good money (MUCH better than $5K). People LOVE the 95' classic. It's a fucking sweet ass truck that everyone on this board likely has had one or would enjoy one to be in their collection. So if you dial in your 95' it will most definitely without a doubt be well worth the investment. Bottom line it's a 95' classic and the values change but your truck will always hold good value especially if you top it off with some nice updates. I for one will always have one and currently have a 95'LWB with 89K miles and would demand top dollar should I ever sell it.....and on top of that......I'd get it! Do what you want to the classic and ditch the other car if you need to make a decision or keep them all if you can. That's my opinion for what it's worth and I typically don't chime in on opinions but regarding the 95' classic I felt the need to say something.

Good luck!
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Old November 25th, 2015, 09:43 PM
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The 95 classic has to go up in price. I've said it plenty of times, if I could get my 95 SWB back I would.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 02:19 AM
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Paid $12k 95 LWB last Friday. Just saying
Paid $1800 for the same ('95 LWB) last month. But it was an 87k mile barn find, so I'm in the camp that they will hold value and gain in price for good examples.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 10:16 AM
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Love the comments. I would be driving it because I chose to more than anything else. We are picking up a new Audi for my wife this weekend and currently have four cars (and only two drivers). I need to part with something. The original plan was to let go of the classic once the defender was done but now I am struggling with that choice. My car payments on the audi are about $7,500 a year. One years worth of payments invested in the classic may well be enough to get me a good solid car. The way I look at it is that even if I only drove the classic for a year and then sold it I am still ahead of the game. I am just not sure $7,500 will get the job done.

I would love to see some pictures of the trucks you all have been referencing to get a general comparison to mine.

Oh well, The fact is we are all fortunate to have these types of dilemmas to sort through and not the types of many of our brothers and sisters in other parts of the world. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.
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Old November 30th, 2015, 03:52 PM
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looks like I found a source for all the broken plastic trim parts inside. I will go ahead and at least update that along with repainting the roof (clear coat is pealing). We will see where it goes from there. I will post updates from time to time here, or, let you know if there is a 95 SWB up for sale!
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Old November 30th, 2015, 04:10 PM
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What would you take for it as is now?
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