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Old May 4th, 2016, 01:58 PM
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that looks fantatsic !
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Thanks, I think it turned out good. Easy to apply.

Current status. I'm very close to getting it back in my hands. All I want from here is to have the ignition set so I can turn the key to start. From there, I'll be doing the rest of this project on my own. A lot of work, but it's what I want to do to make sure the cockpit is set the way I want it. Main job from here is the wiring, including using a blade type fuse panel from the NAS harness.
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Old May 10th, 2016, 11:53 PM
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That looks great. Very nice.
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Tons of work left to do. But it is all the stupid little crap and the wiring. And Doug doesn't want to do that, and I don't want to pay him to do that! .

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I did drive it off he trailer, turn it around, and put it into the garage under its own power.
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OK... now that it is back in my hands, I'm digging through my pictures to try to re-familiarize myself with how the wiring works.

I have all new instruments...

Before handing it back to me, Shipman spent some time trying to figure out how the ignition worked. It seemed that there was a missing pig-tail to the ignition. (And the wiring harness didn't really match any diagrams we could find.) I assumed it must be in my pile of stuff in my garage. So he did a temporary wiring job to get it moving. But then I found this picture from when I was taking this home-made dash apart...

What would you all recommend I do in this situation?
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12 hours later, my garage still smells of Tdi.
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OK, with some gauges attached just to test, I'm seeing 120 degrees water temp while just idling and doing a bit of revving. I'm seeing 40 PSI oil, up to 45 or more when revved.

These seem normal?

I know these engines take some time to warm up, if I have it running the garage for 5-10 minutes, some light revving, am I going to see normal temps yet? Is it really going to be difficult to get to normal temps unless driving?
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Old May 26th, 2016, 06:22 AM
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am I going to see normal temps yet? Is it really going to be difficult to get to normal temps unless driving?
Warms up a lot faster when its under load (driving). Might get up to temp eventually at idle but would take a bit.
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Thanks. Do these numbers seem normal so far?
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https://flic.kr/p/GBU7eJ

Also, can any of you think of any reason why I should NOT set up my gauges in the following way?

My thinking is that the instant feedback, engine/driving vitals are good to have right in front. The slower, more steady feedback gauges in the center dash:

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Question: I have learned a lot about Tdi's recently. Enough to know I'm ignorant.

Are the glow plugs in the 300Tdi in use during operation? Or are they the type that are only used for starting?

If for starts only, what is preventing me from using a timed relay on its own circuit with a simple push button on the dash? The only reason I ask is because I am using a V8 ignition switch and a V8 wiring harness. It seems like it might actually be easier to build my own glow plug harness, than to try to hack into the current harness to try to make it do something it is not meant to do.
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Need help thinking through the wiring on this thing...

First Problem: When I pulled it out, I didn't recognize how much of it was basically a hack job from the previous owner(s). So putting it back together is very frustrating when any one random wire is spliced into two or three times to put extra lights and switches on the dash that I'll really never want again -- i.e., an ignition cut off switch hidden under the dash for security; fake alarm lights and blinkers and switches to make fake alarm work, etc...

Second Problem: None of the wiring diagrams I can find are the same, and none of them match what I have here.

Third Problem: This one is just my ignorance.

I'd really appreciate help here since this is the thing that is holding me up from being able to go through the process of putting this thing back together.
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Need help thinking through the wiring on this thing...

First Problem: When I pulled it out, I didn't recognize how much of it was basically a hack job from the previous owner(s). So putting it back together is very frustrating when any one random wire is spliced into two or three times to put extra lights and switches on the dash that I'll really never want again -- i.e., an ignition cut off switch hidden under the dash for security; fake alarm lights and blinkers and switches to make fake alarm work, etc...

Second Problem: None of the wiring diagrams I can find are the same, and none of them match what I have here.

Third Problem: This one is just my ignorance.

I'd really appreciate help here since this is the thing that is holding me up from being able to go through the process of putting this thing back together.

Replace the main if it's been hacked up - ROW 1993-1995 300TDI Harness is the simplest version for your needs - 1996 and later will be newer style plugs and a few unnecessary runs but will work just fine. Engine Harness would need to to match from a plug perspective - assuming you are not putting in the later bits.
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Question: I have learned a lot about Tdi's recently. Enough to know I'm ignorant.

Are the glow plugs in the 300Tdi in use during operation? Or are they the type that are only used for starting?

If for starts only, what is preventing me from using a timed relay on its own circuit with a simple push button on the dash? The only reason I ask is because I am using a V8 ignition switch and a V8 wiring harness. It seems like it might actually be easier to build my own glow plug harness, than to try to hack into the current harness to try to make it do something it is not meant to do.
Only on startup and really only needed when temps drop down below 20f.

Nothing stopping you from using a timed relay, thats what the factory setup for the tdi is. Earlier trucks let you self time it as they needed a lot more glow.
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Thanks, both. The harness I have is a newer type, so incompatible with rest of truck.

I did some reading on glow plugs and such. Learned a lot. Thanks.
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So... I've hooked up the electrical. Only thing not hooked up is the instruments and radio.

Nothing works. No power anywhere.
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I bought a " power probe III " from Amazon. It has been the most useful tool for figuring out problems like this.
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That is probably a good idea; I wonder if I could rent one some place...

QUESTION: Do any of you have an idea about what might be going on? ...yes... battery is hooked up

Even with a good tester like that, I need a place to start. A logical "check this first" spot. Grounds are in temporary connection directly to the battery neg. Ignition switch is wired as it was previous, except that the loop to the starter and fuel solenoid are new, and independent. No gauges attached, but switches are in place, and dash lighting should come on. No relay clicks, no life at all. I can't help but feel this is something simple that I'm missing, but don't understand what it is I'm missing.
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OK, so I can finally say I'm on the way to having this truck up and driving soon. Won't be "done" but will be usable. Busy summer has meant I've only worked on it about 10 hours over the past 1.5 months.

One of my goals with this is to try to make it quieter and cooler than from factory, so I've been using some sound deadening material here and there and all over in the hidden places where it never was from factory. I don't want this thing to be a "pretty" truck, because even though I was not afraid to get the Disco dirty and scratched, I think I would be hesitant if it were a fully restored mall crawler. But I'm taking my time to try to do a lot of little things better.

One of the things I did today was to finally put to use a heat shield I've had in a box for years. I think it came from a DI...?? Anyway, it happens to fit really well between the frame and the bell housing, right over the top of the exhaust pipe as it goes under the corner of the footwell! I made up a bracket for the front end, and used an existing hole in the frame from the old V8 cross-member. Perfect! Hovers just over the exhaust, right where the foot is always getting warmest!
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Seat box in place. Drivers seat mounted. This will give me a place to sit while I put the dash back together. Will drive it tomorrow if I get the chance. Trying to do well, really not sure if I'm doing it right!?
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