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I don't have a 3.9l but from what I have heard is that the efi can be unreliable at times. I also live in Florida and trust me, any of the v8s work great.
3.5, 3.9, 4.2 all used the 14cu (x) injection system. dirt simple, easy to transplant into an early truck, and sought after by hot rodders looking to put the alum v8 in other makes. Discontinued in 1995 but still sought after.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 09:48 AM
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I also have an 83 110 county. Just some facts. The springs that were standard on the early 110s (or maybe only the countys) were from the range rovers. Early 110s also have more standard ground clearance than later defenders. Good luck with your build! Remember to protect those front seats, as far as I know they only came on the 110 county and are quite hard to find (they are really comfortable!!!) this is my before and after.
Thanks, didn't know that the early One Tens have a slightly higher ground clearance. Mine looks like I'm sitting at about 36 at the front. Thanks for the great thread btw.
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Any updates on the 3.9 in this truck? I'm looking into a Tdi, but deep down I know I just don't have the money for it, so a 4.2 or 4.6 is more likely. How is the 3.9 in real life.... although none of the roads are "real" in Florida -- the .5 miles I drive into my neighborhood is a greater elevation change than anything in the entire state of Florida.
Sorry I haven't updated this thread in awhile. Just moved to a new house and trying to settle in. The engine, believe it or not, is still at the shop. Had to take it to a different engine shop since the first one was too busy...a very long story but promised to be done soon. Last I heard they are fitting the bearings to the camshaft. I ended up rebuilding the original 3.5 that came with the truck.

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......Remember to protect those front seats, as far as I know they only came on the 110 county and are quite hard to find (they are really comfortable!!!).

As for the front seats I am about to throw them out! I bought new retrim kits from Exmoor and apparently they don't fit the older hardback seats. I am now looking for a set of front seat frames.
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Old February 1st, 2015, 10:56 AM
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Did you buy new foam too? IIRC I had the same seats and have them re-trimmed in that modus trim to match the Puma 2nd row. I didn't buy new frames. I should have cleaned my better and had them re-finished when I did it.

New trims and seat heat are a great addition (Even in Florida I've have seat heat).
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As for the front seats I am about to throw them out! I bought new retrim kits from Exmoor and apparently they don't fit the older hardback seats. I am now looking for a set of front seat frames.
Forrest,
Don't toss em. I'll take them. It looks like I may be making a Florida run in the next month or two.
Save them for me.
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Don't toss em. I'll take them. It looks like I may be making a Florida run in the next month or two.
Save them for me.
No problem Doug. Hopefully I will have new seats by then!
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Don't toss em. I'll take them. It looks like I may be making a Florida run in the next month or two.
Keep us informed when you are coming. Coffee or whatever and Rover talk.
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Did you buy new foam too? IIRC I had the same seats and have them re-trimmed in that modus trim to match the Puma 2nd row. I didn't buy new frames. I should have cleaned my better and had them re-finished when I did it.

New trims and seat heat are a great addition (Even in Florida I've have seat heat).
My kit is complete with new foam. The foam is not molded for the older hardback seats. Some one was able to make it work but had to cut the foam. I really don't want to do that and would rather find the correct frames.
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New Parts for 3.5 Rebuild

Just got some parts back/in for the rebuild. Decided to go Edelbrock instead of Holly carb. Also going with a Petronix dizzy. New pistons and cam. The shop resurfaced the flywheel too. Stephen from SafariHP just gave me a sweet deal on a pair of front seat frames! Will update the retrim soon.
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Which Isky cam did you go with? I put one in a 3.5 EFI and was told by others after the fact it was not a good choice. Not enough low end tourqe or something.
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Look @ a Cloyes dual row timing chain. They come with a sprocket that lets you set cm timing for peak hp (high rpm) or torque (low rpm) or the stock setting.

Are those the original low compression heads ?
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The cam we're using is a grind from Isky. It's basically like an RV cam for the low end Tq. I can't remember the grind off the top of my head but I can get it if someone wants to know it.
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Look @ a Cloyes dual row timing chain. They come with a sprocket that lets you set cm timing for peak hp (high rpm) or torque (low rpm) or the stock setting.

Are those the original low compression heads ?

The engine is a low compression engine @ 8.13to1. The double roller cam from Ted at TS Imported TS Imported Automotive - British Car and Parts Sales Pandora, Ohio I would say he's one of the most knowledgeable people on the Rover V8. Very good guy and knows a bunch. I know some people buy his stuff and resale it. He helped Edelbrock with the intake/carb setup that goes on the Rover V8. He can get short and long blocks also. 4.6 4.0. Like I said very good guy.

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If you don't mind me asking, how much are you spending on rebuilding the 3.5?
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If you don't mind me asking, how much are you spending on rebuilding the 3.5?

Is this a trick question? Seriously though, I stopped tracking after my third order of new bolts for the rebuild. The nuts and bolts alone totaled over $500, maybe close to $700, I can't remember. I just realized there was no point anymore. Now I just throw money at it.


Bryan would know the specifics as he has all the receipts from the engine shop. I am thinking it may have been cheaper to buy a new longblock but I wanted to learn how to rebuild a motor myself so I am doing it the hard way, and I wanted to keep the original motor with the truck. Machining the block and heads I can't do but I wanted to assemble it to see how everything goes together.


Just curious, roughly how much should it cost me?
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I'll add it all up and let you know. I can't remember off the top of my head. I thought I gave you the receipt for the machine shop. Might be in the truck still. The new bolts were head bolts, rod bolts, flywheel bolts, and mains. They're all ARP and we got them from Ted. I'll look at the receipts and add it all up and let everyone know. The only thing that should differ from this build is machine shop cost at your location. All I can say about that is you get what you pay for when machining is concerned. The parts are what they are. You can chose to search and get the best deal on every part from multiple locations or you can get things from one source it's all personal preference.
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Man I want to do this to my 83 also
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OMG I can't believe it's been a year since I updated this. So much has happened behind the scenes that I can't even begin to document. Anyway, trying to get back on track.

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So I decided to drop the LT95 and Fairey OD and upgrade to the R380/LT230 in hopes of hiting 75mph. I found an R380 with bell housing from a 95 NAS D90 with 81K and bought an LT230 from a 2000 Disco2 with 126K. The LT230 has the 1.2 gearing, I hope this is not too tall for the 34" tires I have. Also made sure I got a locking box since some Discos have a non-locking Tcase.

I will be sending these to Rob Dassler at South West Rovers. No point cutting corners this far in to the rebuild! Rob asked me to take the bell housing, parking brake and shift mechanism off.
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