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Old March 24th, 2016, 12:25 PM
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In August my son and I drove to Cali and picked up this gem from Jeremy Pound. It's been a long time since I've been so excited on a build. I'm calling it a patina build. I don't plan to paint or straighten anything unless I am repairing rust. I've never built a car this way. Everything else I have done in the past has been a 100 % nut and bolt restoration. It is going to take some serious self control. The plan is 109 five door soft top on a 110 frame with a L33 all aluminum 5.3 engine with a T400 mated to a lt230.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 12:34 PM
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Will follow, sounds like a great combination!
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Old March 24th, 2016, 01:42 PM
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Sounds like it will be a cool truck. It's sometimes refreshing to see an "un-refreshed" truck.

What's your plan for intended use?

And what is your reasoning for the choice of the TH400?
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Old March 24th, 2016, 01:48 PM
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I will be our family summer transporter to haul people from the house to the dock.

I chose the t400 for its simplicity and Because I already have a Marks adapter.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 02:07 PM
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Planned tire size? Hard to tell what they are in the picture, looks like 33"-35"?
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Old March 24th, 2016, 02:21 PM
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Galvanizing things maintains a patina look and allows you to modify them and protect them. I would dip the bulkhead, frame, and t-pieces lest they rust away eventually.

After a year or so it gets a nice dull grey.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 02:43 PM
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Galvanizing things maintains a patina look and allows you to modify them and protect them. I would dip the bulkhead, frame, and t-pieces lest they rust away eventually. After a year or so it gets a nice dull grey.
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And dented, scratched and wore out Rover body panels go perfectly with galvanized pieces.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 02:56 PM
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Ok....I'll do it!

But keep in mind I'm in the NW so Rovers don't get rotten here.

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Planned tire size? Hard to tell what they are in the picture, looks like 33"-35"?
I have 285 75 16's now but I'm thinking 35's??
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Old March 24th, 2016, 03:04 PM
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Ok....I'll do it!

But keep in mind I'm in the NW so Rovers don't get rotten here.

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It may eventually move somewhere else, or you take a road trip, or whatever. For the modest cost of a galvanizing run, it is worth 10x in resale and peace of mind.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 03:08 PM
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35's will make up for the lack of overdrive well.

Please don't galvanize the bulkhead. You will never be able to get the doors to close right. I would look into zinc.
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Old March 24th, 2016, 04:06 PM
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35's will make up for the lack of overdrive well. Please don't galvanize the bulkhead. You will never be able to get the doors to close right. I would look into zinc.
Why wouldn't they close correctly post galvanizing?
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Old March 24th, 2016, 04:31 PM
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Galvanizing uses a LOT of heat, not sure if the Series bulkhead will react to it any differently to a Defender bulkhead but I dealt with one and it was warped very badly. We made it work but it was dozens of hours of pulling on it with ratchet straps. You might be able to if you build a jig around it with some thicker steel to prevent warpage but that's some work.
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Galvanizing uses a LOT of heat, not sure if the Series bulkhead will react to it any differently to a Defender bulkhead but I dealt with one and it was warped very badly. We made it work but it was dozens of hours of pulling on it with ratchet straps. You might be able to if you build a jig around it with some thicker steel to prevent warpage but that's some work.


Did you have it quenched after dipping?
Avoiding rapid changes in temperature reduces warping.
Two tricks to this I've heard is specify to have it air dried instead of quenched post dipping,
And hold the bulkhead above the zinc to let it come up to temp before sending it in the dip.
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Derek, this is too funny- I am trying to get Jeremy's rolling 110 chassis to go with my two S-IIa's to build a similar contraption! This arena just keeps getting smaller...
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Old March 24th, 2016, 07:58 PM
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Dale.... I'm sure we all feed off each other on these projects. I've seen so many 110 pimp outs that I decided a rat-rod patina style 109 would be a neat build.
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Dale.... I'm sure we all feed off each other on these projects. I've seen so many 110 pimp outs that I decided a rat-rod patina style 109 would be a neat build.
Agreed! 110s are everywhere now. I've heard of three or four similar builds, glad to finally see someone doing a build thread on one. Looking forward to seeing it come together.
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Old March 25th, 2016, 12:24 PM
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Here is the adapter bolted to the T400.
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35's will make up for the lack of overdrive well.

Please don't galvanize the bulkhead. You will never be able to get the doors to close right. I would look into zinc.
Not wanting to start a squabble but this isn't really accurate. Many people, myself included have dipped many bulkheads without issue. Even without a "frame" (I use one but its mostly so the galvanizer can handle it easily as this is where most damage takes place).

Also, galvanizing is zinc. Hot dipped or plated. If you are talking about electroplating it's really a waste of effort, as the rust generally starts on the inside.
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You guys are swaying me to leave mine unpainted. Damn you!

I have not tried to fit anything to my bulkhead I had dipped, but don't see any warpage to speak of (I did put a bar between the mounting holes so I know the bottom width was maintained. A full frame might have ben better to avoid damage as they move it around.
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