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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:59 AM
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I do like shiny things... And I want them to last most importantly. Why not stainless? It sucks to work with or another reason? It has some type of copper on the old frame now
Nickle copper is every bit as corrosion resistant as SS if not more so. It's easy to repair. It's easy to fab. It will come apart years later (try that with SS even when installed "correctly") Widely used in high end cars for a good reason.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 09:24 AM
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Well the only brake fitting I have tried to undo from the old copper lines didn't work out so well. I was trying to remove the line from the master and the nut wouldn't spin around the line so I just ended up twisting the line until it gave. And that was after soaking a couple of days with PB Blaster. I might have gotten off on the wrong foot with the copper stuff, but it didn't impress me in that situation. I'm sure it's lots easier to bend and flare though
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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:16 PM
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Yup, thats just it. It will usually come apart but then there are always the ones that don't. I get nasty old English junk in the shop all the time and the copper lines all come apart nicely. Get some relatively new builds and none of the stainless will come apart.....not just the brake lines. I only get shiny bits if specially requested and generally under protest Lol.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 08:01 PM
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Got engine dropped in, LHD bulkhead in place and tires swapped over to new frame. Next up is to fabricate tub outriggers and straighten out bent up tub parts.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 08:21 PM
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Nice! So is the plan to put it all together and when you are sure it's all right, pull it apart again and galvy?
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Old March 28th, 2012, 08:25 PM
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Nice! So is the plan to put it all together and when you are sure it's all right, pull it apart again and galvy?
I was going to ask what color galv that was, but you had a better way of asking.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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It's called "distressed" galvy. Yuppies pay extra for it so their frames look well worn and not new
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Old March 28th, 2012, 08:27 PM
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Looking good... And Uwharrie is only weeks away... :-)
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Old March 28th, 2012, 09:26 PM
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It's a Georgia specific frame treatment that takes years to perfect. I think it has cured enough by now that I can build to it.

Yeah I plan on getting everything put in place and doing all fabrication of frame mounts etc. then taking it all apart and going to galvy. I wish I would have taken frame to blaster before doing the fitting but oh well.

I am still wishing for Uwharrie even though I know that it is totally unrealistic. There are so many little things that need to be done. All the electrical, plumbing, axles, gears, body work, seats.........

All in good time.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 01:02 PM
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Ok. So I am at a point where I need to make a decision. I am up to tub outriggers. They are supposed to mount to the frame right where the rear trailing arms are. I have been thinking about a Johnny joint rear arm that would be mounted on the side of the frame so it would render the stock arm mount obsolete.

I guess my question is, is it worth it to change the stock arms out for Johnny jointed arms? Will I get any more suspension travel out of that setup or does the A arm limit the travel more?

The next thought is to go all out and do a 4 link conversion in the rear. That would be sweet.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 02:06 PM
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Old sill, new sill!
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I vaguely remember there being a program or website/calculator from an off road build show that you could plug in your numbers/truck you had and it would show you how things would work together. Yes I am full of vague answers.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 03:15 PM
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Yeah I found a calculator from a guy named Triaged on pirate4x4 that has a 4 link calculator excel program that lets you plug in a bunch of numbers and then it will let you cycle the suspension to see what happens. One thing that seems crucial to do that correctly is to determine the center of gravity. I have no idea where that is.

That calculator is linked to in this article. http://www.therangerstation.com/Maga..._link_tech.htm

It also has a formula for finding the center of gravity, but that assumes you have a truck that is fully built that you can get on a scale.
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I'm with Jeff - I think you can retain most of the trailing arm mount and weld it to the outrigger and it will be just as strong.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 09:28 PM
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I just got a set of these (used) as another alternative to the route that Wolf took. Similar principal, different mounting option. Still retains the stock outrigger, but removes the stock binding issue.

http://www.qtservices.co.uk/parts/co...ty-traili.html

I only went that way so as I didn't have to chop the frame on the NAS truck. On a non-NAS I would cut the outrigger and put a better set up on there. Maybe something like the Gigglepin set up or similar:

http://gigglepin4x4-shop.co.uk/epage...ling%20Arms%22

Easy enough to home build something like that as well.

Or go full custom like you're considering with the 4 link.

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Am rebuilding my D90 to 100" wb at present, here's a couple of pic's of my rear 4 link stuff.... new mounts for JJ's and axle trussed for the new top links.

And a few of the truck at present..... lots more to do
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looks real good! nice set up.
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Ah cool. Are you using the currie Johnny joints and which ones? I will be sending you a PM with my contact info if you feel like sharing what you have discovered during your build.

And I see you moved the front shock mount too. That's looking good. You have done a lot of work to get where you are.
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Ah cool. Are you using the currie Johnny joints and which ones? I will be sending you a PM with my contact info if you feel like sharing what you have discovered during your build.
Or start a build thread and share with the rest of us!
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