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Old February 3rd, 2014, 11:37 AM
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New member but old lurker

I've been lurking on this site for years (since 2007). When I graduated I thought I was going to move to Seattle and then spend my free time off roading. But I ended up getting a job in Los Angeles and those plans changed. I've joined before but never posted since I don't own a Defender, I was trying to learn the ins and outs of the vehicle before making the move.

But now I'm officially looking to buy. I somehow convinced my wife to consider a Defender 90 for her --then I can play with it from time to time. :D

She doesn't know how she agreed to this but I love her for taking part in a car hobby. She is even willing to learn to drive a stick too. But I don't want to throw in another obstacle so we are keeping our search to 1997 D90s. We're looking for a 1997 D90 SW minus the color I love (British Racing Green, she wants to avoid the military look and stay more safari).

We test drive a local truck this week, hopefully she enjoys the experience. And we can "officially" join the forum.

Thanks and look forward to learning more.

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Old February 3rd, 2014, 11:45 AM
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 11:49 AM
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A D90 is a gateway drug to more Rover addiction. You'll have an open top 2A 88 in two years. Plan on it.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 12:06 PM
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:D I don't have the driveway space. It is a good thing these go off road. I'll park the 2A 88 in the back yard.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 12:19 PM
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I've been lurking on this site for years (since 2007). When I graduated I thought I was going to move to Seattle and then spend my free time off roading. But I ended up getting a job in Los Angeles and those plans changed. I've joined before but never posted since I don't own a Defender, I was trying to learn the ins and outs of the vehicle before making the move.

But now I'm officially looking to buy. I somehow convinced my wife to consider a Defender 90 for her --then I can play with it from time to time. :D

She doesn't know how she agreed to this but I love her for taking part in a car hobby. She is even willing to learn to drive a stick too. But I don't want to throw in another obstacle so we are keeping our search to 1997 D90s. We're looking for a 1997 D90 SW minus the color I love (British Racing Green, she wants to avoid the military look and stay more safari).

We test drive a local truck this week, hopefully she enjoys the experience. And we can "officially" join the forum.

Thanks and look forward to learning more.

-Jeff
Good luck ... you are going to need it ... if she can't drive stick ... these things drive like a tractor ... compared to a car they are horrendous .... heavy controls ... noisy, uncomfortable ... is your wife going to daily drive or is it a 'spare' vehicle?
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 12:32 PM
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My wife drove our 97SW for 3 years... Loved it. And, we'll start looking for another one soon.

Welcome to the addiction. Drugs have nothing on Rovers. :-)
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 01:26 PM
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Good luck ... you are going to need it ... if she can't drive stick ... these things drive like a tractor ... compared to a car they are horrendous .... heavy controls ... noisy, uncomfortable ... is your wife going to daily drive or is it a 'spare' vehicle?
I'll sell it as character. :D

She just wants to feel secure and be able to trust it. I want her to be safe and enjoy owning this type of vehicle.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 01:45 PM
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I'll sell it as character. :D She just wants to feel secure and be able to trust it. I want her to be safe and enjoy owning this type of vehicle.
I don't feel secure or safe in a 90. Heavy controls, blind spots, sluggish, and non-existent crumple zones. A Defender is a magnet to start with; add a good looking woman to it and there will be issues. Trust me.

When/if my wife and kids get their Defenders, I plan on addressing those deficiencies.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 01:49 PM
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I'll sell it as character. :D

She just wants to feel secure and be able to trust it. I want her to be safe and enjoy owning this type of vehicle.
you sure a defender is the right choice????

I don't want to rain on your parade ... but you should know what you are buying.

These trucks have zero side impact protection ... no crumple zones ... no air bags or ABS.

They can be quirky - read unreliable - uncomfortable - hot in summer - cold in winter - leak water into the cabin when it rains and oil / gearbox fluids onto your drive way ...
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 01:50 PM
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Fit rock sliders for side impact protection.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 03:08 PM
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A D90 is a gateway drug to more Rover addiction. You'll have an open top 2A 88 in two years. Plan on it.
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I'll sell it as character. :D

She just wants to feel secure and be able to trust it. I want her to be safe and enjoy owning this type of vehicle.
Get her a LR3
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 03:21 PM
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Fit rock sliders for side impact protection.
i assume that's a joke
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 05:15 PM
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Why don't you think rock sliders would be effective side protection? My truck sits high enough that I think most vehicles would slide under them.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 05:26 PM
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Why don't you think rock sliders would be effective side protection? My truck sits high enough that I think most vehicles would slide under them.
Think vs actually tested

I guess they would help .. but compared to an actual side impact protection system ... I'm not feeling the love!
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 05:44 PM
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Yeah, I'm enough of a believer to allow my teenage daughter to drive the thing.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 06:08 PM
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Yeah, I'm enough of a believer to allow my teenage daughter to drive the thing.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 06:22 PM
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2" lift * sill protectors / sliders, sure makes a difference, even rear 1/4 panel protectors do. I was hit once in my old series 2A while parked, a sedan passed a truck in a narrow street and hit my rear 1/4 panel protector bumper at about 20 mphr, nearly took out my wife who was just going to open the door when the car hit us.
The hit was damn hard and I thunk the rear end was trashed, when I jumped out the bumper had a 2" dent in it..nothing to sneeze about...but then found that my rear axle broke from the impact. The sedan however looked like it went through jurasic park and had a giant gash ripped through the side front to back = totaled. I couldn't believe it... Good old steel bump did the job. I'm pretty confident a solid slider would help side impact.
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Old February 3rd, 2014, 10:09 PM
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I was serious, they will provide good protection against a side impact against anything short of 4ft tall. There was a pretty bad accident of a NAS D90 and, IMHO, the sliders saved the driver. The truck flopped on its side, but driver was ok. I think with nothing but thin aluminium, it would have been really bad. This is why I fitted mine. I don't wheel.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 08:14 AM
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I was serious, they will provide good protection against a side impact against anything short of 4ft tall. There was a pretty bad accident of a NAS D90 and, IMHO, the sliders saved the driver. The truck flopped on its side, but driver was ok. I think with nothing but thin aluminium, it would have been really bad. This is why I fitted mine. I don't wheel.
Don't get me wrong ... Slider are better than nothing but aren't the same as a side impact protection in a modern vehicle.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 09:56 AM
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Think vs actually tested

I guess they would help .. but compared to an actual side impact protection system ... I'm not feeling the love!
True, side impact protection is minimal on a Defender. On the other hand, they're the safest car on the highway in a head-on collision, because 90% of the impact is absorbed by the tow truck.
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