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Old July 7th, 2016, 03:01 PM
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While I am new to this particular forum, I have been using car forums for many years now. One thing I noticed that this site is lacking in sub-forums for various topics, making it more difficult to find information, and having to pollute one sub forum with somewhat unrelated topics. I understand this decision in the forums infancy, without many users, there would be many empty sub sections. At this point with so many active users I doubt this would be an issue.

My suggestion is to add more sub-forums such as Interior/Exterior, Lighting/Electrical, Wheels/Tires, Engine, LS Swap, Brakes/Steering/Suspension, Transmission, Service/Maintenance, Custom Fabrication, Parts reviews sections broken out


Only a suggestion, thanks for the great site

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Old July 7th, 2016, 09:55 PM
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I've actually always thought the absolute opposite of those forums with 30 sub-forums. It's very difficult to get involved and the transparency is low.
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Old July 7th, 2016, 10:18 PM
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Fixing the search function would do wonders. -Jeff
Doesn't seem like that's happening in our lifetimes. You can also Google search using Defendersource as the site source filter.

If you can think of one key word identifier that'll help narrow your thread down, try that.

As it is, people start threads in completely inaccurate subs - if we added 10 more it'd create 10x more work for mods and people would still just start new threads before looking around.
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Old July 7th, 2016, 10:20 PM
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Interesting question.
As the mod on another forum, I've seen it go both ways. Traditionally we split everything up. Model years, tires, electronics, towing etc, just as you like. From time to time, we consolidate little used sections of the forum.
Then the new model comes along, and the latest folk want everything all lumped in together. After a while I just shrugged and let them have it the way they wanted.

As for D source, I like it just as it is thank you.
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Old July 7th, 2016, 11:00 PM
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We come to this forum because we drive/own old, clunky, hand made, loud, hot, leaky, breakdown prone English 4x4 vehicles with Lucas electrics that began to corrode the day they were made. Why would we want a fancy dancy slick forum with a Search Function that works and no soul? Makes no sense to me, might as well buy a Jeep JK.
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Old July 7th, 2016, 11:39 PM
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I pretty much only use the "recent discussions" window up there in the corner. If its not there I'm not reading it.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 12:04 AM
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I pretty much only use the "recent discussions" window up there in the corner. If its not there I'm not reading it.
X2 (or actually anyone who uses this forum as most of us do.)
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X2 (or actually anyone who uses this forum as most of us do.)
Agreed.

With that said a modern Rover section (LR3, LR4, RR) would be nice.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 07:52 AM
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There should be an LS swap section for the riffraff
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Agreed. With that said a modern Rover section (LR3, LR4, RR) would be nice.
There is already a dedicated land rovers that suck thread.
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I am a full stack software engineer. I do everything from database design, write backend search algorithms, user interface design. I just finished building a legal data search engine for one of the largest law firms in the world.

It is much easier to find what you are looking for both as a user and programmatically if you have data (threads) separated into smaller buckets (sub forums) rather than everything in one big bucket.

I would divide the one sub forum into many, have assigned members or mods go through the top threads from the past 3 months and sort them into the new sub forums, then archive the rest so that it is searchable but not able to have create new threads. The recent posts section on the right hand side would remain unchanged.

My feelings is that the sub division of this forum would be most helpful for new members. It makes disseminating information a lot easier as you can go to a topic area, read up on various subject areas. Instead unless the area you are interested is trending in the single bucket you need to do a targeted keyword search which may or may not come up with what you want because of the additional noise created by doing a wild card search in one big hopper (single word hits in unrelated threads).

As time goes on and Defenders get cheaper in USA there is going to be a sea of new members in flowing. The harder you make it to find information the more redundant topics will be created. Sub forums, while not a complete solution, will help to reduce this.

I am very tech savvy user and very automotive competent and even I have a hard time disseminating information here. I feel like some of the senior members here lose sight of that because they have been around so long and are so familiar with stuff at this point that you don't see the issue.

That being said I respect the decisions of the forum admins and opinions of its users.
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At the very least a diesel n gas separation sections
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I've actually always thought the absolute opposite of those forums with 30 sub-forums. It's very difficult to get involved and the transparency is low.
I totally agree.

Some of the other forums I go to have it split down so minutely that it just isn't fun to browse.

Take Powerstroke.org - you'll have each of the engines and body style (7.3 OBS / 7.3 PS / 6.0 / etc - which makes total sense). But each of those sub forums gets broken down into at least one more root: Interior / Exterior / Performance and 4 or 5 more. We are doing a shackle lift on the F250 - do I look in Exterior or Performance or Problems? And I find each sub-forum only has a couple new posts a day and of those posts there is only a page maybe 2 of threads.

On D-90.com I like seeing all the different threads. It's like flipping thru a newspaper or magazine. And to make it even more simple the phone app (which I use 95% of the time) throws all the threads into one line. I just hit the Current list and browse.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 08:50 AM
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Maybe just a hall of wisdom subforum with threads related to really popular topics that have recurring searches/ new threads.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 09:06 AM
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I totally agree.

Some of the other forums I go to have it split down so minutely that it just isn't fun to browse.

Take Powerstroke.org - you'll have each of the engines and body style (7.3 OBS / 7.3 PS / 6.0 / etc - which makes total sense). But each of those sub forums gets broken down into at least one more root: Interior / Exterior / Performance and 4 or 5 more. We are doing a shackle lift on the F250 - do I look in Exterior or Performance or Problems? And I find each sub-forum only has a couple new posts a day and of those posts there is only a page maybe 2 of threads.

On D-90.com I like seeing all the different threads. It's like flipping thru a newspaper or magazine. And to make it even more simple the phone app (which I use 95% of the time) throws all the threads into one line. I just hit the Current list and browse.
There would have to be a balance in the amount of subdivision. You can go too far. I'm not advocating for such extreme division like you are using as an example. Merely separating engine threads from suspension from lighting.

Your issue of ease of browsing can be resolved too. A "recent topics" sub forum that is a query of the most posted threads. Roughly "Select all threads from all sub forums where last post date is less then 2 weeks order by last post date decending". On the furthest right hand column display what sub forum it is pulled from.

That way you can have it both ways.

The search engine would also work better. I am sure of it. I get paid good money to do this stuff.
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Old July 8th, 2016, 09:09 AM
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Fixing the search function would do wonders.

-Jeff
Exactly!.... and maybe a RRC section.

I just helped with the creation of a new forum (wood surfboards), and vBulletin 5 search feature works like one would hope. Maybe it's time for a software upgrade for D-Source.
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I totally agree. Some of the other forums I go to have it split down so minutely that it just isn't fun to browse. Take Powerstroke.org - you'll have each of the engines and body style (7.3 OBS / 7.3 PS / 6.0 / etc - which makes total sense). But each of those sub forums gets broken down into at least one more root: Interior / Exterior / Performance and 4 or 5 more. We are doing a shackle lift on the F250 - do I look in Exterior or Performance or Problems? And I find each sub-forum only has a couple new posts a day and of those posts there is only a page maybe 2 of threads. On D-90.com I like seeing all the different threads. It's like flipping thru a newspaper or magazine. And to make it even more simple the phone app (which I use 95% of the time) throws all the threads into one line. I just hit the Current list and browse.
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