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Old May 4th, 2009, 10:11 AM
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Coming Soon, SS Y-pipe + Off Road Pipe

Hi everyone,

I'm thrilled that my Oil cooler line kits have been such a hit here, thank you all for your support! I will soon be offering New Stainless Steel Y pipe assemblies for Defender 90, 110, D1, RRC. I am trying to get them ready to ship around the 600-650 price range. They will carry a lifetime warranty on the pipe assy, 2 years on the cats. I will also be offering an "offroad" version with no cats for those of you who travel south of the border, or for competition use. The offroad pipe will only be offered for pre-'96 vehicles at fist. I would like to offer a group discount on the first run, so if you are interested in either style, please let me know. Thanks all!


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Old May 4th, 2009, 11:04 AM
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Interested in an offroad pipe for a 95 D90 and the same for a 1993 NAS 110.
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Old May 4th, 2009, 11:23 AM
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Interested in an offroad y pipe for a 94 d-90
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Old May 4th, 2009, 03:58 PM
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I met with the fabricators that will be making the new pipe system for me today, things are progressing nicely. What I will be trying to offer is a "knock-down" system that will allow the user to remove or install cats or off road pass through pipes as they please. Final pricing will depend on the quantity I can move for this first production run, as well as the type of cats I ultimately spec for this pipe. My pipe system will out perform the NRP, provide better front driveshaft clearance, will be entirely of 304 stainless, and will be much easier to install. Thanks for your interest, stay tuned for more details.
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Old May 4th, 2009, 05:10 PM
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Wow this sounds great. I love the option for user removal of the cats. Of course it adds to the possibility of leaks.
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Old May 4th, 2009, 09:03 PM
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That was one of my concerns as well, but the way the cats will be attached is very secure, and should not be prone to leaks. I hope to have a prototype on my own vehicle soon, I will post pics and results as soon as I can.
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Old May 4th, 2009, 10:35 PM
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Saw your post on my thread. Why not spec one with 1 cat after the Y like I was thinking. You would be reducing cost and complexity! You could simply make one straight pipe to bypass the cat. If you went with the original twin cat system you would have four potential leaky areas instead of two. Not to mention easier access to one cat after the Y (easier access) than the two before the Y???

Would be VERY interested in this setup.

Thaks, would love your thoughts.
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Old May 4th, 2009, 11:28 PM
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There is no room for a cat at the end of the y-pipe.
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Old May 5th, 2009, 03:59 PM
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There is no room for a cat at the end of the y-pipe.
This is exactly why. The size of the cat needed to clean both exhaust streams would be so large that everything would hang down so far you would lose quite a bit of clearance, not to mention putting all that heat right under your transfer case, cooking it every time you drive. I have not yet road tested the prototype, so I can't say much for the potential of exhaust leaks, but I am very confident that there will be none. This multi piece design will make installation much easier, as well as trans service for automatic vehicles. I'm sure more than a few of you have installed other aftermarket Y pipes that didn't exactly fit without some tweaking and forcing. This permanent stress on the installed pipe causes cracks down the road, as well as leaks at the manifold flange. I am very confident this system will be well recieved.
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Old May 14th, 2009, 01:52 PM
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Intrested when ready... please keep me posted.

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Saw your post on my thread. Why not spec one with 1 cat after the Y like I was thinking. You would be reducing cost and complexity! You could simply make one straight pipe to bypass the cat. If you went with the original twin cat system you would have four potential leaky areas instead of two. Not to mention easier access to one cat after the Y (easier access) than the two before the Y???

Would be VERY interested in this setup.

Thaks, would love your thoughts.

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Old May 14th, 2009, 04:34 PM
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I am interested in the off road pipe as well. No testing of any kind here...................
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Old May 15th, 2009, 02:22 PM
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This is exactly why. The size of the cat needed to clean both exhaust streams would be so large that everything would hang down so far you would lose quite a bit of clearance, not to mention putting all that heat right under your transfer case, cooking it every time you drive. .
Hmmm...I am running headers with a single cat after the Y-Pipe and didn't lose but like 1/2 inch of clearance. The single cat isn't much larger than one of the dual ones and I have passed Virginia emissions twice now.

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Old May 18th, 2009, 08:57 AM
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Here is a pic of the mockup Y pipe. I will have a road ready pipe tomorrow or Wednesday.
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Looks nice except that passenger side cat is awefully close to the driveshaft.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 01:58 PM
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And not to be picky, but wouldn't you want the heat shield on the tranny side as opposed to the chassis side?
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Cool. Pricing for two y-pipes sans cats please.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 03:09 PM
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And not to be picky, but wouldn't you want the heat shield on the tranny side as opposed to the chassis side?
The cat in the picture should be rotated 180. That was an oversight during the mockup. No big deal really since the cats are a slip fit and can easily be repositioned. As for driveshaft clearance, this system affords just as much clearance as the factory system does, although it doesn't look like it from my photo. One of my design constraints was that larger GBR or TW drive shafts must be able to work with this system.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 04:12 PM
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Are the o2 sensors easily accessible? I know that was a problem with the NRP on my old range rover. They were nearly impossible to remove on the driver's side without removing the whole y pipe
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Old May 18th, 2009, 04:20 PM
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Are the o2 sensors easily accessible? I know that was a problem with the NRP on my old range rover. They were nearly impossible to remove on the driver's side without removing the whole y pipe
The overall design of the truck just doesn't lend itself to easy access to the O2 sensors. I do know about the poor O2 placement of other aftermarket Y pipes, but I think the placement on the stock and the NRP is about as good as it gets, and this will be similar. The high quality of material used in the construction of this pipe will ensure that they will at least come out when you need to change them, even if the access is still a bit frustrating.
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