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Old March 9th, 2013, 07:46 AM
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Your Rovah So Fat...

Finally weighed my 110: 5900lbs.

That's with a full tank a fuel, a rear drawer full of tools, and spares under the middle row seats. This is my typical "empty" driving weight.

If my memory serves me, the NAS110 empty weight was 4850, with a GVW of 6800lbs. So I essentially have about 1100 extra pounds over a NAS110, to include the diesel motor, and all the armor, which I don't think is too bad.

Even fully loaded in expedition mode, I bet I still squeak in under the 6800 GVW.

Anyone else "fat" or weighed their trucks?
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Old March 9th, 2013, 08:06 AM
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Yep. I was just over 6100. When we were deploying to Botswana, I had my 110 at the tarmac at Pope AFB at the big weigh scale, and we talked them into letting me drive it up for a weigh in. Since then I've been more sensitive to weight.

Yours is like Wynonna Judd. Mine is like is like Rosanne Barr. In other words, I'm a fat pig you skinny beeyoch.

With the RTE HD suspensions though and the rear disc conversion, it seems to handle it quite fine. I've had 6 adults in there and there's no sag and braking is manageable.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 08:10 AM
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We have a scale here at our TMO office we can use for free. Once I get I my truck fully loaded I'll roll over there and check out my full weight.

But I agree on the handling. I don't feel like I'm rolling in 3 tons. The truck handles surprisingly well with a Tdi, disc brakes, 35s, 4.10 gears, and a rear sway bar.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 08:28 AM
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RRC 4860, I think the 90 was 4680
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RRC 4860, I think the 90 was 4680
I'm not feeling so fat then.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 04:32 PM
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Rolled mine onto a CAT scale at a truck stop outside Ft Bragg just for shits and giggles once. 4200 lbs empty and just me in it (Im about 170). Ive always thought that was a little low.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 04:45 PM
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I had to get my exmod weighed when I registered it. To make it as light as I could I removed the jack, the spare tire, etc. Had no floor mats, no load area mats, but left the door tops on.

Got it down to 3700 lbs.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 04:50 PM
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fwiw a tdi engine weighs pretty much the same as a 3.9/40 v8.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 05:25 PM
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fwiw a tdi engine weighs pretty much the same as a 3.9/40 v8.
200/300tdi is 270kg, the V8 is 230kg. A difference of almost 100lbs.
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My RRC was right about 5100 with no rear seats and all my tools and rescue junk in the back.
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Last time I used the 90 to haul old blacktop to the yard it weighed 4280# when I left.
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200/300tdi is 270kg, the V8 is 230kg. A difference of almost 100lbs.
thats the engine weight, then theres the heavy ass harness, ecu, vapor recovery canister, additional in tank pump, heavier radiator, y pipe with cats, etc.
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I weighed my 110 on the truck scale at work as I was leaving the yard. 2200 kg or 4894 lbs. that's a row 300 tdi with 3/4 of a tank and my fat butt all stock except for a tire carrier and steering guard
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My 109 loaded with gear, water tank empty spare fuel tanks empty weighed in at 6150 lbs. I would think at its heaviest she would waddle around at 6400lbs baby got back...
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thats the engine weight, then theres the heavy ass harness, ecu, vapor recovery canister, additional in tank pump, heavier radiator, y pipe with cats, etc.
Tdi's have motor specific ancillaries too - sedementor, intercooler, etc, not to mention diesel fuel weighs more than gas at just over 7lbs per gallon versus 6lbs for gas. That's 20lbs in fuel alone.

What else ya got? Next you'll tell me the V8 setup has more cooling capacity.

But I concede it's probably a wash and comes out pretty even between the two.
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Tdi's have motor specific ancillaries too - sedementor, intercooler, etc, not to mention diesel fuel weighs more than gas at just over 7lbs per gallon versus 6lbs for gas. That's 20lbs in fuel alone.

What else ya got? Next you'll tell me the V8 setup has more cooling capacity.

But I concede it's probably a wash and comes out pretty even between the two.
Point was it's a wash when doing a conversion. Trucks sit pretty much exactly the same before and after. But no doubt the cast iron tdi block vs aluminum v8 block the tdi engine is a bit heavier in the engine hoist.

FWIW most tdi's that have passed through my hands have not had sedimenters. Not sure why. Perhaps an option lthat most don't opt for ?
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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:18 AM
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Point was it's a wash when doing a conversion. Trucks sit pretty much exactly the same before and after.
Yes, and I already conceded your point...see above.
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My 109 loaded with gear, water tank empty spare fuel tanks empty weighed in at 6150 lbs. I would think at its heaviest she would waddle around at 6400lbs baby got back...

That's one fat yotch right there.

I'm guessing the external cage on Wolf and my trucks add quite a bit of weight compared to ROW trucks without.
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Tdi's have motor specific ancillaries too - sedementor, intercooler, etc, not to mention diesel fuel weighs more than gas at just over 7lbs per gallon versus 6lbs for gas. That's 20lbs in fuel alone.

What else ya got? Next you'll tell me the V8 setup has more cooling capacity.

But I concede it's probably a wash and comes out pretty even between the two.
Comes out pretty even till you try to merge into traffic on the highway. Then a bit less so.

I do wish I'd weighed my old truck-I think I have a TMO reference point somewhere-as one of the reasons I built lighter this time around is because of the 2nd and 3rd order effects of making a truck over engineered and over equipped is they become untenable for driving to/from events...and if that's the case, what's the point?
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You are PHAT.

I got my Stage One weighed when I was carrying some scrap metal to the recyclers - I think my empty weight was between #2500 ~ #3000.

Of course, this is a basic 109 with a soft top but I do have some decently heavy sliders and a meaty front bumper.
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