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Old January 10th, 2011, 10:54 AM
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yeah yeah yeah Jeep stuff, VW TDI into YJ+TJ kit

http://www.hpamotorsports.com/tdijeep.htm

and

http://blogs.jpmagazine.com/6667601/...wap/index.html

Pretty cool that the stage 3 kit involves retaining OBD diagnostics, that should make it easier to convince states to accept a gas->diesel swap.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 11:29 AM
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I like it...

The HPA link is dead...
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Old January 10th, 2011, 11:38 AM
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It just worked for me. I'm on a different PC then when I posted it. weird
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Old January 10th, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Not working here either. Jim Hall in Colorado put a VW Tdi into his SIIa 88. By all accounts it worked well. It suffered a few failures AFAIK unrelated to its location inside the Land Rover engine bay.

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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:27 PM
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I am currently (well back at the shop in Maine - I am in New Zealand till late March) stuffing a 2002 VW TDI with all OBD2 stuffs into a 1995 (non-OBD2) Audi 90 Quattro 5 speed. Fun project. I also added a far larger turbo, injector nozzles and other related tweaks like a custom built intake mani.

Remapped the ECU software to rid the immobilizer and other functions plus had the tuner bump the software to match the turbo/intake/nozzles etc. 205 hp and torque figures around 330. These run higer RPMs quite happily with a good tune and with those power figures it would be a GREAT power option for most any Rover.

When i return I plan to start making a bellhousing adapter available for Rover <---> VW as I think it would make a seriously nice power plant for a D90 or even a 110 or Disco really.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 05:15 PM
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I am still contemplating the VW 1.9TDI ALH into my into my 97 4runner 5 speed, i can get the engine cheap, its the wiring that will be a bitch.

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I am currently (well back at the shop in Maine - I am in New Zealand till late March) stuffing a 2002 VW TDI with all OBD2 stuffs into a 1995 (non-OBD2) Audi 90 Quattro 5 speed. Fun project. I also added a far larger turbo, injector nozzles and other related tweaks like a custom built intake mani.

Remapped the ECU software to rid the immobilizer and other functions plus had the tuner bump the software to match the turbo/intake/nozzles etc. 205 hp and torque figures around 330. These run higer RPMs quite happily with a good tune and with those power figures it would be a GREAT power option for most any Rover.

When i return I plan to start making a bellhousing adapter available for Rover <---> VW as I think it would make a seriously nice power plant for a D90 or even a 110 or Disco really.
VNT 17/22 turbo and Power plus injectorrs?

Yeah i wanna throw 1.9tdi into a defender or series but that could be a bigger mess than the 4runner.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 06:57 PM
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This is going to turn me to the dark side... once they have the TJ version...
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I am currently (well back at the shop in Maine - I am in New Zealand till late March) stuffing a 2002 VW TDI with all OBD2 stuffs into a 1995 (non-OBD2) Audi 90 Quattro 5 speed. Fun project. I also added a far larger turbo, injector nozzles and other related tweaks like a custom built intake mani.

Remapped the ECU software to rid the immobilizer and other functions plus had the tuner bump the software to match the turbo/intake/nozzles etc. 205 hp and torque figures around 330. These run higer RPMs quite happily with a good tune and with those power figures it would be a GREAT power option for most any Rover.

When i return I plan to start making a bellhousing adapter available for Rover <---> VW as I think it would make a seriously nice power plant for a D90 or even a 110 or Disco really.
Hey,

Do you know if it is possible to reflash the ecu to function perfectly with no egr or emmissions stuff at all? I have a 2010 and think it would be a very cool racecar engine.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 10:19 PM
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might be a sporadic issue with their site.
click here to test it -> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.c...om/tdijeep.htm
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Old January 11th, 2011, 02:27 AM
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To answer the questions: Yes, I did the EGR delete and immobilizer delete as well.

Yes 17/22 turbo and Euro "Transporter" nozzles. I forget the size, .024 or something??

I found the best guy to do the ECU work was a Canadian guy "Malone Tuning" GREAT guy, super fast and excellent customer service.

Yes the wiring is a bitch - but nothing compared to the TDi into a D2 mess.....
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Old January 11th, 2011, 08:04 AM
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Wonder if they do anything to try and seal the timing case? Does not look like it as I can see the timing belt in the pictures.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 10:43 AM
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I think sealing the timing case would be difficult. I have a 1z tdi and it has a plastic cover with all kinds of holes. I'm sure a cover could be made though if someone was motivated.

There is a mechanical pump you can fit to most older vw TDI's:
http://www.mtdiinjectorpump.com/

Could solve a lot of the ecu issues.
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I think sealing the timing case would be difficult. I have a 1z tdi and it has a plastic cover with all kinds of holes. I'm sure a cover could be made though if someone was motivated.

There is a mechanical pump you can fit to most older vw TDI's:
http://www.mtdiinjectorpump.com/

Could solve a lot of the ecu issues.
wow thats really cool
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Jim had to re-bore the back of the VW crank to allow the larger Land Rover pilot bushing to fit. Not the end of the world I suppose but most people probably won't want to do that.

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Old January 11th, 2011, 07:40 PM
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Cool jeep. Where there any Land Rovers at SEMA?
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I think sealing the timing case would be difficult. I have a 1z tdi and it has a plastic cover with all kinds of holes. I'm sure a cover could be made though if someone was motivated.

There is a mechanical pump you can fit to most older vw TDI's:
http://www.mtdiinjectorpump.com/

Could solve a lot of the ecu issues.

AVOID THAT GUY WITH EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER!!!!!! He sells absolute SH!T.

There *IS* a good company selling mechanical pumps (for a lot more $$ but still worth it if you want) so you can run them that way but the stuff in the link listed is GARBAGE! Really, do NOT buy ANYTHING from that guy.

Go to http://forums.tdiclub.com/ and research stuff, and learn a lot before you do too much.

The VNT turbo and electronic controls are worth the effort to wire it in my opinion.

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I am waiting for my 86 110 to show up on these shores. I really want to install a VW ALH TDI engine. I already have a spare engine, along with the harness and ECU, so I can keep the electronic controls.

Anyone know where I can get the engine adapters and mounts? Once the mounting and clutch are taken care of, I can do the rest.
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A diesel with enough balls to be worth putting in a Rover is not going to fit anyway.
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A 6.5 turbo diesel fits fine... How much balls do you need?
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6.2, 6.5 has to be one of the worst engines ever perpetrated on the public
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