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Old April 30th, 2011, 11:24 AM
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Am I allowed to correct the errors that people have posted, or should I start another thread?
Pursue the truth man, but perhaps a new thread on lies, damn lies and bs statistics would be in order.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 11:37 AM
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Old April 30th, 2011, 11:51 AM
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The stock parking brake drum alone is around 35lbs or more I'd say.

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The drum, backing, pads, cable, inside cab lever and all bolts was 31lb if I remember correctly. I had to ship it all. I thought it was more too. It's not as heavy as people think, but it is still a big obnoxious thing.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 11:58 AM
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They are 11lbs (5kg) pounds lighter...not that much of weight savings, and do you really think even if it was 20lbs lighter, you'd notice it.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 12:17 PM
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They are 11lbs (5kg) pounds lighter...not that much of weight savings, and do you really think even if it was 20lbs lighter, you'd notice it.
The old drum was probably around 20-25lb of rotational weight. On a 150hp tdi, I noticed it on throttle response right away.

Edit: But I agree, weight reduction is not a great reason for the conversion.
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Old April 30th, 2011, 12:38 PM
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On the race truck buck?
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Old April 30th, 2011, 12:50 PM
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On the race truck buck?
I'm really flattered that you would call it a race truck! lol, yes.

The best benefit to removing it though, was that I got to lift the entire belly of the truck from front to back 1.75in and under the t-case, 4in!
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Old April 30th, 2011, 12:56 PM
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I can see doing on the "race truck" but on a everyday truck, I'd be hard pressed for anyone to notice...
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Old April 30th, 2011, 01:15 PM
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We are now up to 10!

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Old April 30th, 2011, 01:42 PM
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Old April 30th, 2011, 03:50 PM
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I wasn't clear on whether a new brake cable was included in the kit, I didn't think so. Should that be part of the order as well?
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Old April 30th, 2011, 05:34 PM
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You shouldn't need a new cable unless yours is toast. They are cheap and wouldn't be too hard to add to the order though.

Once we get a solid price we can work the details and extras.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 09:29 AM
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Sorry every no firm pice yet because England is closed. Ill know tomorrow
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:02 PM
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For those still interested, the X-Brakes will be $378, plus shipping. That's a smokin' deal! If you want one, you need to call Justin at Lucky8 (716)898-8153 and put down a deposit. Justin is also going to post the offer on several other websites, so the price may actually go down if more people jump on board.

Here is who said they were interested:

1. Wolf
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9. crash303
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12. timtimtj

Please chime in once you contact Lucky8 and put in your deposit.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 01:07 PM
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I can see doing on the "race truck" but on a everyday truck, I'd be hard pressed for anyone to notice...
That's because you drive in arizona.

I've had the brake drum freeze solid on me a couple times before I got smart and started using chocks instead after driving in a heavy wet snow. Get any slush in the drum while driving, then wait about a full shift at work..... you ain't moving for a while.

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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:50 PM
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Old May 5th, 2011, 05:20 PM
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I lived in Syracuse, NY 'till 2005...I doubt you got more snow and ice than me...never had an issue...
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Old May 5th, 2011, 08:29 PM
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Anyone know the diameter of the disc? I'm curious what the ground clearance gains are.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 09:02 AM
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The disc is ~ 9", and the guard sticks down about .5" below the disc. The drum at it largest point (backing plate) is 11".

The drum alone weighs roughly 10kg, or 22 lbs. The disc weighs around 7 lbs. As Buck noted, the difference in rotational weight it the big improvement. I'll skip the dissertation on rotational inertia, but in simple terms, the drum brake acts like extra weight added to the flywheel whenever you start moving, and it adds to the work of the wheel brakes for each stop (unless you put the clutch in every time you brake...)

The caliper and backing plate/guard for the X-brake weigh more than the backing plate and shoes for the drum brake, thus the total reduction of only 5kg.

Ground clearance improvement is zero, your third member housings are still the low point...

Joking aside, on my 110 the guard for the X-Brake sits about an inch above the bottom of the chassis rails.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 09:22 AM
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The disc is ~ 9", and the guard sticks down about .5" below the disc. The drum at it largest point (backing plate) is 11".

The drum alone weighs roughly 10kg, or 22 lbs. The disc can't weigh more than 3 or 4 lbs on the outside.

Ground clearance improvement is zero, your third member housings are still the low point...

Joking aside, on my 110 the guard for the X-Brake sits about an inch above the bottom of the chassis rails.

Thank you for the help
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