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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:44 PM
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Wtf jetta moment

I dropped my tdi jetta Wednesday at the dealer for routine service and a check engine light. Get a call from the dealer Thursday saying that the cel is due to the entire fuel system needing replacement and that because it's $5600 to fix they are waiting on an inspector to look at it. Thank god for extended warranties! My question is what the hell fails that the entire system has to be replaced?
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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:45 PM
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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:47 PM
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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:50 PM
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just think about how hard it's going to be to find diesel exhaust fluid in the appocalypse. I don't care how efficient the engine is, you'll be left stranded by the emmisions ECU driving around trying to find Larson's silo compound.

This guy had a VW TDI when the zombie appocalypse went down. Howd that work out for him?

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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:51 PM
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Old September 26th, 2014, 12:53 PM
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just think about how hard it's going to be to find diesel exhaust fluid in the appocalypse. I don't care how efficient the engine is, you'll be left stranded by the emmisions ECU driving around trying to find Larson's silo compound.

This guy had a VW TDI when the zombie appocalypse went down. Howd that work out for him?
Only the newest ones require the diesel exhaust fluid. Mine doesn't, and I'm assuming since we're talking "extended warranty" here, that this one doesn't either.
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Old September 26th, 2014, 01:00 PM
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The High Pressure fuel pump fails and screws up the entire fuel system. Most common on 09-12 models. Not unknown on others.

Well known issue. Please add your information to the appropriate thread:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=308323

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=286380
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Yup. Why I shelled out for the 110k warranty. I am thinking around 105k I will replace just the HPFP as insurance. Supposedly the pump design changed in nov 2010 and early ones are worse. $5600 is cheap. I have heard costs well above that.
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Old September 26th, 2014, 02:59 PM
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just think about how hard it's going to be to find diesel exhaust fluid in the appocalypse. I don't care how efficient the engine is, you'll be left stranded by the emmisions ECU driving around trying to find Larson's silo compound.

This guy had a VW TDI when the zombie appocalypse went down. Howd that work out for him?

isnt the adative basically urea?
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Old September 26th, 2014, 04:10 PM
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when the zombie apocalypse comes Ill be just fine on my bike, a lot better off than in a late model VW.
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So my 2011 is likely crap?
It could well fail. I love VW, but would not go Tdi anymore.

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isnt the adative basically urea?
Yup.
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So my 2011 is likely crap?
Yup. Keep in mind we are talking about a 1-2% fail rate on these. Not like defender oil cooler lines which are approaching 100%.

They also usually give some warning (CEL). Since almost all have been warranty jobs, out of warranty you could probably flush and just replace the HPFP but that has not been sorted out yet.
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VW replaced the entire system because Ny flakes from the failed pump left in the fuel lines will go through and destroy the next pump
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VW replaced the entire system because Ny flakes from the failed pump left in the fuel lines will go through and destroy the next pump
I understand that is what they are doing, but if it does not fail completely I don't see much crap being in there such that a flush would not fix it but what do I know.
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Yup. Why I shelled out for the 110k warranty. I am thinking around 105k I will replace just the HPFP as insurance. Supposedly the pump design changed in nov 2010 and early ones are worse. $5600 is cheap. I have heard costs well above that.
Yup. Another reason one of the TSBs for my '12 JSW 6MT had the dealer put 4 "diesel only" stickers and a diesel only yellow ring around the filler neck... Most HPFP failures I've heard of had to do with gasoline(or non ulsd) input.
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So Flipped, what year is your tdi?
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just think about how hard it's going to be to find diesel exhaust fluid in the appocalypse. I don't care how efficient the engine is, you'll be left stranded by the emmisions ECU driving around trying to find Larson's silo compound.

This guy had a VW TDI when the zombie appocalypse went down. Howd that work out for him?

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(or non ulsd) input.
It's probably the other way around. The process to reduce sulphur content also reduces lubricity, so if the pumps weren't designed with that in mind it could cause them to fail sooner.
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