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Old January 13th, 2016, 12:52 PM
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I don't believe most Defender enthusiasts are mall cruisers. Certainly not around here. Every new Defender owner I've met has taken their truck off road the day they bought it.
You are in Calgary John. The boost club guys have to drive hours out of Gotham just to find a trail
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Old January 13th, 2016, 12:53 PM
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I don't believe most Defender enthusiasts are mall cruisers. Certainly not around here. Every new Defender owner I've met has taken their truck off road the day they bought it.
I wasn't remarking about current platform Defenders, I was remarking about every new Range Rover and Land Rover produced in the past 10 years. If the new Defender is going to be in a luxury catagory it would follow that the same customers would be in the market.

Ergo, mall cruising
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Old January 13th, 2016, 12:59 PM
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...... to upgrade the 130....
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Old January 13th, 2016, 01:01 PM
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Exactly. IMO Land Rover will never make a vehicle like the Brute because they can't find a way to reconcile the offroad ruggedness of it with their status symbol image here in the States.


LRNA is retarded as far as I'm concerned. Instead of embracing the offroad community and being active in it they hold off clubs at arms length. The fact that LRNA has no presence at the Land Rover National Rally(or any other event for that matter) pretty much says it all.

Back when I had my Defender I was asked on more than 1 occasion, "what kind of Jeep is that?" These were people driving disco's looking right at the tire cover. I believe I even had someone ask me while I was at the dealer.

Of course not to be outdone I had H2 owners ask me the same question when they saw the Hummer.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 01:58 PM
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I wasn't remarking about current platform Defenders, I was remarking about every new Range Rover and Land Rover produced in the past 10 years. If the new Defender is going to be in a luxury catagory it would follow that the same customers would be in the market.

Ergo, mall cruising
Yes, but they COULD make a proper off road vehicle and not only make a lot of money on it, but increase sales on the rest of the products they sell. Having a real off road vehicle back in the North American sales line would return some creed to the marque.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 02:00 PM
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You are in Calgary John. The boost club guys have to drive hours out of Gotham just to find a trail
I know at least one guy in NYC that is a true enthusiast.
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Old January 13th, 2016, 02:25 PM
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Land Rover is not, and has not been paying attention.

You've seen the new Defender, right?


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You saw the new defender? Where?
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Old January 14th, 2016, 06:16 AM
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I saw that as well...and admittedly I'd be seriously tempted to upgrade the 130 if they end up doing a Brute-ish doublecab config:
Well when you upgrade I want the 130.
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can't wait to see this wrangler mall cruiser with the baja roll bar installed. you know it's coming. ugh.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 12:27 PM
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The mall cruisers will look nice with a 22" XD and low pro Nitto Dune Grappler hanging off the side of it. What an impractical and ugly place to put a spare tire
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Old January 14th, 2016, 03:55 PM
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:11 PM
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The mall cruisers will look nice with a 22" XD and low pro Nitto Dune Grappler hanging off the side of it. What an impractical and ugly place to put a spare tire
Yeah, I know right? Where would you even come up with something like that? What vehicle manufacturer in their right mind would put the tire there?

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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:22 PM
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Chrysler has a history of putting tires in stupid places.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:32 PM
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Chrysler has a history of putting tires in stupid places.
Is the hood really an intelligent choice as well?
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:35 PM
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Is the hood really an intelligent choice as well?
Yeah, it keeps the hold from flying off the car.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:39 PM
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Yeah, it keeps the hold from flying off the car.
Not sure I've ever seen a Series/Defender get up to a speed worthy of tearing a hood off, but if it gives you piece of mind...
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:40 PM
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Not sure I've ever seen a Series/Defender get up to a speed worthy of tearing a hood off, but if it gives you piece of mind...
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Old January 14th, 2016, 04:42 PM
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