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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:05 AM
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Would you drive your 110 cross country?

Im relocating the family from Los Angeles to Maine this summer and need to get my car and 110 there. Would you guys tow a vehicle behind your NAS 110 and drive cross country? No need to remind me about the price of gas or ask me why I want to put miles on the truck. What Im really looking to know is how does this thing do when towing a vehicle. Anyone done it before? Ive only owned the the truck a few months and not used it to tow anything. Any thoughts would help.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 06:16 AM
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After looking at your avatar, you could always try and fly it to Maine.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 07:16 AM
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Where in Maine are you moving to?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 09:22 AM
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If you are patient you can do it.. You failed to mention what kind of car. MG Midget yeah maybe, 74 Caddy? Use it to tow the D. Or better yet put the car on a hired car hauler and enjoy the ride in the D.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:15 AM
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I've done it. I actually bought my 110 sight unseen and flew out and drove it home. A little scary, but it worked out.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:26 AM
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Neil thats funny about the avatar. We are moving to Yarmouth and I need to get the 110 and a Porsche 993 there. I would drive the 110 without question its the towing of the car that Im worried about. I forgot to mention the truck has the stock 3.9 but been converted to an auto trans.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:27 AM
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I'd think power would be an issue. You might test the combo out first. Perhaps take a drive up and down the Grapevine with the car in tow and see how it does - then figure it will be worse than that climbing over the Rockies...
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Sure, it will be fine. Christ I tow over the mountains when I had a 2.5 NA. You don't NEED to drive 80 mph all the time. Slow down, enjoy life. The 3.9l tows fine.

Make sure the trailer is braked.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:37 AM
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:39 AM
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I'll bite.

This is a lousy idea. You have a 15 year old vehicle with moderate power (low as tow vehicles go) pulling another car while loaded with weight and passengers - across the country during the hot summer. If anything fails, parts are not easy to come by in most locales. Also, having only owned it two months, there may certain issues with the your particular truck you've not experienced yet. A cross country drive can be stressful enough on an older car, but towing is worse.

You would be better off renting a truck suited for this and towing the two on a trailer.
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Trip sounds like a blast.

Pay my opinion no mind, I'm sadistic enough to be working on convincing the wife to agree to a 50CCC next month on a motorcycle with a seat known for pain. Why? because I found an excuse to ride it... I'd be in the 110 in a heartbeat. Though the Porsche would be fun, too.
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Isn't this the point of owning a 110? They drive these things all across Africa annd SE Asia towing trailers all the time. It's a buick motor for crying out loud, NAPA and or Oreilly have parts, if you lose an AC knob or your green oval on your steering wheel just have Rovers North post you one to the Holiday Inn in the next town. Pack some spares for the things that typically go out, keep credit card handy and have fun. If you break down get on the D-90 board and I'll wager three of these guys would try to beat each other to you with a truckload of tools. If the 110 craps out just jump in the Porsche and meet the tow truck in the next town. I drove my 25 year old 109 all over the country, coast to coast. Slow but fun. Enjoy the truck, you paid enough for it.
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Originally Posted by phoenix37
Im relocating the family from Los Angeles to Maine this summer and need to get my car and 110 there. Would you guys tow a vehicle behind your NAS 110 and drive cross country? No need to remind me about the price of gas or ask me why I want to put miles on the truck. What Im really looking to know is how does this thing do when towing a vehicle. Anyone done it before? Ive only owned the the truck a few months and not used it to tow anything. Any thoughts would help.
I have used 110's as tow vehicles in various business for the past 10 years, both V8 engined ones and turbo diesels, they are good tow vehicle for loads of up to 3.5 tonnes.

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I'll bite.

This is a lousy idea. You have a 15 year old vehicle with moderate power (low as tow vehicles go) pulling another car while loaded with weight and passengers - across the country during the hot summer. If anything fails, parts are not easy to come by in most locales. Also, having only owned it two months, there may certain issues with the your particular truck you've not experienced yet. A cross country drive can be stressful enough on an older car, but towing is worse.

You would be better off renting a truck suited for this and towing the two on a trailer.
Its not in the power its in the gearing, a 2.286 ltr petrol series 2a will tow 3.5 tonnes at 55mph, thats a tiny engine, you don't need a 6.7ltr V8 to tow, just a little skill and common sense.
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This is gonna be slow going.. and if anything challenges the truck this will do it!
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What's your 993 weighing in at? I tow a 951 that's 2920 wet and the trailer is 1120. I use a 4.6 d-90 but I've also done it with a 3.9. I say go for it but then again I'm known for overloading my vehicle. Make sure your cooling system is in awesome shape. If you have trailer brakes, You'd be fine. I don't have trailer brakes and I need to do a little intelligent driving to get everything stopped. I also have 12.50 wide tires to give me some more rubber. The skinny things on 110 will screech like hell going down mountain passes with an unbraked trailer pushing you. The power is gonna suck but you know that. If your truck doesn't over heat and your brakes are sorted, you will be fine.
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is 3.5 tonnes the same as 3.5 tons ? or is that some imperial measurement ?


FWIW if it were mine to do, I'd probably ship the 993 with my household goods and make an adventure of crossing the country with the 110. I towed a Range Rover p38 4.6 HSE (much heavier than your 993) through the mountains of Virginia with my 93 Range Rover lwb 4.2 and it did very well. There were places where it downshifted into 3rd and only pulled @ 45mph up some of the mountains but in the foothills and on the flat it easily would pull 70-75.
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See this is why i love you guys. So many good points i have literally changed my mind almost everytime i read a new post. i think im going to have the Porsche shipped and enjoy the 110. It was driven here from Seattle with no problems and i have just had a major service done. I will save the long haul towing for when Mike gets around to putting a 4.6 in her. Thanks for all the advice guys and Noah looks like we will be neighbors.
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Wouldn't it help to have air shocks or air bags on the rear springs to cope with the load? Before I installed HD OME shocks on my 110, that thing would sway like crazy on its own weight.
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See this is why i love you guys. So many good points i have literally changed my mind almost everytime i read a new post. i think im going to have the Porsche shipped and enjoy the 110. It was driven here from Seattle with no problems and i have just had a major service done. I will save the long haul towing for when Mike gets around to putting a 4.6 in her. Thanks for all the advice guys and Noah looks like we will be neighbors.

That sounds like a much better idea. I'd go over what was or was not serviced on the 3.9 and make note of any obvious things that might need servicing or inspection.

I don't know the mileage, but maybe have the coolant and oil analyzed before the trip. Devil's advocate, a truck just bought two months ago may still have a clean sprayed engine bay and underside. You may not yet have the tell-tale leak residue in various places. Also, have you driven it enough in heat to know the cooling system works well.

When I first read your post, the immediate thought that came into my mind was a high mileage engine towing under load blowing a head gasket while going up in the mountains. Buick motor or not, who wants to deal with that sort of thing with some unknown shop.

I've driven mine north-south, and had a great time. Back then, though, it only had 24k on the clock. Today, 9 years later and with almost 100k more, I'd entertain doing it again. I know, though, what's been done with mine, what hasn't, and that there is a greater chance of something failing now than nine years back.
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For comparison:
Tallest mountain in Virgina: Mount Rogers; Grayson County 5,729 feet.

Tallest mountain in UK: Ben Nevis, Scotland 4,406 feet.

Highest Elevation TransCanada Highway: Kicking Horse Pass (Alberta / BC border) 5,389 feet.

Elevation at West Portal of the Eisenhower Tunnel Interstate 70 Colorado Rockies: 11,158 feet.

Any guesstimate what the average speed of a loaded 3.9 110 pulling a 4,000 lb trailer up the grade to Eisenhower would be?? (Moral of story: Ship the 993, drive the 110 and enjoy the experience...)
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