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Old January 8th, 2016, 11:39 AM
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Wilwood clutch master

Anyone using these? Wilwood clutch master cylinders. They look identical to Girling ones. Probably more reliable (maybe?). I like them for custom applications as they are available in multiple bore sizes but I haven't tried them yet.
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Anyone using these? Wilwood clutch master cylinders. They look identical to Girling ones. Probably more reliable (maybe?). I like them for custom applications as they are available in multiple bore sizes but I haven't tried them yet.
Talk about timing ...if you're looking to switch to something more reliable, I just posted info on the cast-iron Dorman conversion here:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...tml#post704404
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not to throw a wet blanket on anybody's plans but why not just send one of your alloy MC's over to white post for sleeving and a lifetime warranty?

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Dave in my case I might need a different size bore with the NV4500 so I wanted the option of changing both the master and the slave. The Girling slaves are available in 3/4 to 1" and these 5/8 through 7/8. It just gives me more options to make the clutch feel good.
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not to throw a wet blanket on anybody's plans but why not just send one of your alloy MC's over to white post for sleeving and a lifetime warranty?

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Some folks have done that, it's not "cheap" either...but to be honest I prefer the Dorman after driving it for 6+ months, fluid is still crystal clear, and physically the Dorman is a bigger bore cylinder and technically has a bit lighter feel to it.
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...and physically the Dorman is a bigger bore cylinder and technically has a bit lighter feel to it.
What is the bore? I had assumed these were the same as a Defender?

edit: A bigger bore master would make a heavier clutch pedal.
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What is the bore? I had assumed these were the same as a Defender?
3/4" on the Rover, 13/16" on the Dorman.

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edit: A bigger bore master would make a heavier clutch pedal.
Larger surface area moving more fluid with less work...I'd say it feels lighter to me .
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Larger surface area moving more fluid with less work...I'd say it feels lighter to me .
More fluid, less pressure, heavier force required. Trust me.... 17% more force.
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More fluid, less pressure, heavier force required. Trust me.... 17% more force.
Probably not when your factory Rover MC & SC are sludged up with a mixture of cloudy gray aluminum & DOT4...I suppose the upgrade to a non-F'd MC that isn't full of crap will make it seem "better" by comparison. That, or apparently hitting the gym has done wonders for my quads and hammys. My legs must be so ripped they didn't even notice a 17% increase .
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