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Old September 7th, 2010, 10:30 AM
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Will your Car be HACKED?

Okay, not so much an issue for the Defenders we drive, but I'm sure most of us also drive vehicles that are or will be susceptible...


Cars: The next hacking frontier?

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Imagine the possibilities, when almost everything in the modern day vehicle is controlled by a computer, and now that some manufacturers are offering 'Wireless Internet Access' it will be that much easier for a hacker to lounge at StarBucks and compromise your ride..
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Old September 7th, 2010, 04:57 PM
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Nice read, but think we have to worry about our cell phones getting hacked before this, and then likely our car infotainment systems before they go for this kind of thing (which required physical access to achieve anyway).
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Old September 8th, 2010, 08:54 AM
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Nice read, but think we have to worry about our cell phones getting hacked before this
Agreed, but our cell phones represent a target of higher interest, easier access, and greater gain to hackers right now...


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and then likely our car infotainment systems before they go for this kind of thing (which required physical access to achieve anyway).
Who's to say physical access is required now, or will be in the future. If the systems are all interconnected hackers may be able to use current Blue Tooth connectivity to gain control of vital systems, and certainly will have greater avenues of access to vehicles that are 'connected' with Mobile ISP service...

Its all an exercise to try to stress teh importance of building security into these systems before it becomes a problem, hopefully the manufacturers will take notice and it will never be a wide spread issue..
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Old September 8th, 2010, 10:52 AM
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I'm slowly turning into a tech-hating curmudgeon.

'Course it won't matter much after the machines take over.
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If it was built, it can be reverse engineered. There's no getting around it, just slowing it down.

However, there needs to be some gain for the hacker to maliciously gain access (rather than just do it for a technical challenge) and there's not much to gain by attacking some random person's car.

This is different than your computer getting some sort of 'virus' if that's what you're implying...
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None of my 3 Land Rovers have computers so I guess I'm OK.....
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None of my 3 Land Rovers have computers so I guess I'm OK.....
But, your Honda appliance does!
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This is different than your computer getting some sort of 'virus' if that's what you're implying...
I don't know if this was directed to me or not, but if it was, then no, not what I was implying, though that possibility would exist in the future as well, and could possibly have much more wide spread 'appeal' since it could be used to launch a 'Denial-of-Service' type attack against transportation resources..

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However, there needs to be some gain for the hacker to maliciously gain access (rather than just do it for a technical challenge) and there's not much to gain by attacking some random person's car.
Not currently, but in the future, who knows. And what about the bad guys looking to kidnap someone or the like. If they could roll up behind the vehicle, disbale the engine, and unlock the doors, that would make their deed that much easier for them.

Point is that there will be individuals that will find a way to exploit the 'ability' to do harm of one kind or another, particularly if it is made easy for them to do. Its not unlike any other technology that was devised for good, and someone found a way to do bad with it..
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So then the hacker changes our fuel maps for a 4.6 instead of 3.9 :O
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However, there needs to be some gain for the hacker to maliciously gain access (rather than just do it for a technical challenge) and there's not much to gain by attacking some random person's car.
Gain is a subjective attribute of the attacker, similar to intent. There is definitely much that could be gained both directly and indirectly from a large scale attack of this type, but the gain is dependent on your perspective. While we may see none, the attacker may see the mother lode.

Of course, this is all hypothetical right now, but so was the idea of flying planes into buildings on Sept. 10, 2001. As devices, cars included, become more interconnected we will see many more types of attacks that were only in the realm of sci-fi a few years ago.
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