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Old June 5th, 2017, 01:00 PM
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Why does it take half a day....

to do the brakes on my RRC and only an hour to do the brakes on the Super Duty?
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Old June 5th, 2017, 01:02 PM
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Old June 5th, 2017, 01:06 PM
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You are slow? Or you just like comparing new vehicles to 30 year old ones?

Changing the pads takes 10 minutes. It is only changing the rotors that take time, but if you are using normal pads, they should not need changing for quite a few sets of pads. And by that age, you should be pulling the hubs and changing the seals.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 01:16 PM
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The SD parts probably cost half the price too.

And a half day isn't bad. Once it took me a day and a half just to do one corner because the half shaft was stuck.

Must be something with RR's and brakes. My wife's L405 needs new brakes all around. The dealer price quote was staggering (I'm calling some other shops to see if I can get a better price). I got into it with the service writer. She said the RR brakes are special and the RR weighs a lot and is a high performance vehicle so it goes through pads so frequently and they cost a lot to replace. I told her our Suburban weighs more, doesn't eat pads like the RR does and I drive it harder than I do the RR. And the replacement cost is half.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 01:27 PM
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The SD parts probably cost half the price too.

And a half day isn't bad. Once it took me a day and a half just to do one corner because the half shaft was stuck.

Must be something with RR's and brakes. My wife's L405 needs new brakes all around. The dealer price quote was staggering (I'm calling some other shops to see if I can get a better price). I got into it with the service writer. She said the RR brakes are special and the RR weighs a lot and is a high performance vehicle so it goes through pads so frequently and they cost a lot to replace. I told her our Suburban weighs more, doesn't eat pads like the RR does and I drive it harder than I do the RR. And the replacement cost is half.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 02:12 PM
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To add further injury to insult, my experience is the 7000 lbs Super Duty stops better than any of my Rover products.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 02:17 PM
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To add further injury to insult, my experience is the 7000 lbs Super Duty stops better than any of my Rover products.
Even with 10k# behind it!!
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Old June 5th, 2017, 06:51 PM
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Well, the real difference is that the Super Duty is a fleet vehicle. As such, ease of maintenance is designed in. The caliper bolts are made accessible to air tools and are nice fat 18mm heads. The caliper comes off in about a minute or so. Since rebuilt calipers are cheap, it's cheap to replace everything at one swing.
if you're doing 20 trucks in a row, you want it to go easy, right?
Doug's right. the dually crew Super Duty stops way good.
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That's why there is a service rep in the Super Duty packaging weekly meetings. Not just a vehicle ops guy testing for manufacturability, but someone to make sure they can service quickly also.
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Wait till the front end falls apart and needs a total rebuild (which they always do). Not so fun on those big Fords. You'll be missing kingpins then...

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That's why there is a service rep in the Super Duty packaging weekly meetings. Not just a vehicle ops guy testing for manufacturability, but someone to make sure they can service quickly also.
I guess the day they decided that you had to pull the cab to get at most of the engine components was the day he was off fishing?
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I was only around 7.3 to 6.0 to 6.4 design days. Who knows what they do now I suppose. Most of those guys are long gone and moved on around 2005 implosion.
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The Super duties take a beating especially up in snow land where they can handle a plow far better than any Chevy can. Result is the front end needs a rebuild on a regular basis.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 08:16 PM
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I was only around 7.3 to 6.0 to 6.4 design days. Who knows what they do now I suppose. Most of those guys are long gone and moved on around 2005 implosion.
6.0L was the first that required the cab to be pulled to get at a lot of stuff. If the 6.0 and 6.4 hadn't been such junk, I guess it wouldn't have been ok... Not exactly easy to work on.

Don't mean to crap on the fords. True that a brake job is a breeze compared to a Rover, but they definitely have their problems. I don't understand how none of the big three can build a truck with a front end that will stay together.
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Don't mean to crap on the fords. True that a brake job is a breeze compared to a Rover, but they definitely have their problems. I don't understand how none of the big three can build a truck with a front end that will stay together.
I suppose that you are referring to the 4WD version? I specifically stayed away from a used 4x4 cz I know they're usually driven hard and put away wet.
I never ever used the 4WD on the Ranger. Wait, wrong, I did once to see how it worked.
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whats the consensus on the 6.7? The last generation of the Super Duty interior is far and above any other work truck Ive driven
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Assumed we were talking 4x4. 2wds are rare in my area.

6.7 is supposed to be good.
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whats the consensus on the 6.7? The last generation of the Super Duty interior is far and above any other work truck Ive driven
I own a '17 F350 Lariat FX4 Powerstroke 6.7 currently. Its by far the nicest truck I've owned, and I've had a GMC duramax, 2 chevy duramax trucks, a '13 F350 King Ranch 6.7, a '13 Ram 3500 Laramie Cummins, and several other diesel trucks.

The '17 I own now is incredibly nice, all around.
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