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Old January 27th, 2011, 11:24 PM
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Why 110s & not 90s?

Just an observation, but it seems like there is just a deluge of 110s here on the board for sale that have been brought up to modern spec, imported, and are priced in the stratosphere.

Why am I not seeing the same thing happening with 90s?

Curious....
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Old January 28th, 2011, 01:07 AM
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Having just been looking for one, I have had the same problem. I don't know why.

I guess people like the "look" of the 110? I already have a LWB truck in the LR3... the 90 is for tight places.
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Old January 28th, 2011, 01:50 AM
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it really comes down the federal import laws. until a year or two ago if you wanted a 110 you could only get a shady gray market 110 or find one of the 500 NAS 110's imported in 1993.
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Old January 28th, 2011, 03:41 AM
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It's really due to the available numbers of D90's already here in the US. Very very few NAS 110's around, but there is a fair number of NAS D90's.

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Old January 28th, 2011, 06:26 AM
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As a builder of these vehicles its due to economic reasons, we can build you a 90 stationwagon SE, but the sale price will be very similar to the 110SE sale price as the labour is the same. Would you be prepared to pay $75,000 approx for an as new tdci 90? probably not because the resale value would be lower than the 110 with the same spec.
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Old January 28th, 2011, 09:09 AM
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As a builder of these vehicles its due to economic reasons, we can build you a 90 stationwagon SE, but the sale price will be very similar to the 110SE sale price as the labour is the same. Would you be prepared to pay $75,000 approx for an as new tdci 90? probably not because the resale value would be lower than the 110 with the same spec.
I think this probably hits it on the head. I guess while a NAS 90s generally sell for 1/2 or 2/3 the price of a NAS 110, when you're building a truck, that 20" probably doesn't account for a huge savings....

Of course in a climate where we're seeing $150K+ for a 110, maybe $75K for a 90 isn't that far off...

Too bad though.
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Old January 28th, 2011, 02:15 PM
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Well send me the coin and we'll send u a 90!
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A few things. First, there were no 1983 90s, and 84-86 90s seem to be much less common than 110s so there are less donors/importable trucks. Second, you can buy a NAS D90 in rough to OK shape for 15-20k or so and an import 90 is not far off and will probably be RHD and not have the cage/soft top. Third, while I have seen some nice 90s available on ebay UK for reasonable money (usually built by offroad/trialer places) as Julian says a rebuild to 2011 spec is going to be not much less money than a comparable 110.
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I would also think that a 110 is more usable than a 90 obviously, especially if you have people and gear to move around. To me its like comparing the Surburban to the Tahoe, you know you'd rather have the Surburban.
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Old January 28th, 2011, 06:01 PM
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I would also think that a 110 is more usable than a 90 obviously, especially if you have people and gear to move around. To me its like comparing the Surburban to the Tahoe, you know you'd rather have the Surburban.
Yeah, and a 110 might be able to get under the daily driver umbrella more than a 90 especially if the 90 is a soft top. I'd drive the Defender more if mine had the extra row of seating. Haven't driven one yet but my wife drove a friends NAS 110 in Nan last summer and commented on how much smoother it was than our 90.

Funny about the Tahoe/Sub comparison. We are on our 3rd 'Burban. While looking this summer - I wanted badly to get into a Tahoe (or something smaller) as the 'Burb is a royal PITA to drive around town. But just couldn't with 3 kids, 2 dogs as a minimal. Add cousins and friends that are typically around and gear for ski/snowboard, hockey/ice skating, bikes, beach stuff and the 'Burban is the way to go. Not to mention I can fit a 4x8 sheet of ply/sheetrock no problem.
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try and fit a sheet of plywood in a double cab.... not fun. you need lots of rope and a prayer.
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try and fit a sheet of plywood in a double cab.... not fun. you need lots of rope and a prayer.
Yeah, the only way I imagine it fitting is looking/working more like a big sail. yikes!
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110 Double Cabs look great, but if you want space go for a 130!
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I wonder if they sold the 110's here for three years and there was just 500 D90's would the 90's be more sought after as imports?
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I wonder if they sold the 110's here for three years and there was just 500 D90's would the 90's be more sought after as imports?
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Long wheelbase Land Rovers have always been more desirable and commanded a higher price. And seem to be a bit thinner on the ground.
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Long wheelbase Land Rovers have always been more desirable and commanded a higher price. And seem to be a bit thinner on the ground.
Not true in the UK 90's are more popular here.
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I actual meant to say "In North America" but got lazy...typical American...

Though I don't mean to say which is more popular. I think the SWB has always been more 'popular' simply because there are more of them and thus cheaper. Land Rover stopped selling the LWB in NA in about 1968 or so, and kept on with the SWB until pulling out altogether in '74. Ditto with the return in of 'proper' LR's to the US, a short burst of LWB's followed by a steady trickle of shorties. Thus the 90 seems 'popular' and the 110 becomes a bit more of a specialist thing. And more $$$.

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Not true in the UK 90's are more popular here.
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