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Old March 8th, 2013, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Overlander View Post
Nothing is. I've seen pictures of an M1A1 tank with the turret popped off upside down on the ground. The bigger we get, the bigger they get. Beyond MRAP's, anything we have that is not specifically designed to take a mine/IED hit underneath has no chance.
Which speaks to the reality that you shouldn't try to defeat a tactic as a substitute for having a strategy. Technological solutions for an enemy TTP only mitigate things to buy you time to deal with the cause of violence (or find a way to leave...)

M1A1's aren't that hard to kill if you crack the fuel cell and start a fire (should be familiar given the oil cooler line stuff). Once it's burning, it's all over.

Other than MRAPs/MATV's the MTVR (aka 7 ton) made by the wonderful people of Oshkosh actually does extremely well-in fact last time I checked that was just as safe or safer than the v-hulls, mostly due to weight/height above ground.

The uparmored 110's are no better than flat bottom HMMWV's against that kind of threat-though some protection is better than none. Doug's point about the windshield illustrates well that every uparmor is just bullet resistant for a temporary period!


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