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Old September 17th, 2006, 01:36 PM
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Exclamation Which Defender 110 Would you buy?

There are two D110s that I am currently considering. One D110 has 104,000 miles and is in almost perfect condition. The other D110 has only has 48,000 miles. The D110 with 104,000 miles has an asking price of $49000 and the D110 with 48,000 has an asking price of $39000. The D110 with 48,000 has rust issues and other issues per the seller.
Consider the debate of low mileage with rust and has been sitting allot of its' life. From my experience Rovers do not sit well. Would it be better to have a higher mileage D110 in great shape or buy the lower mileage one and with the extra money ($10k) fix the rust and other issues?
Here are the two that I am considering.

http://www.copleymotorcars.com/land_...5.3vo1061.html

http://www.luxeauto.com/lw/inventory....cfm?Invid=283
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Old September 17th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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This thread might be of interest... http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ead.php?t=9436
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Old September 17th, 2006, 02:35 PM
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I would totally get the 48k mile truck and use the $10k to go galvy and diesel (I know this will add up to more than 10k, but face it, you`re going to be dropping a sh*tload of money into the 104k mile truck anyways... we all know how expensive these trucks are no matter what).
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Old September 17th, 2006, 02:37 PM
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the one with the least amount of rust
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Old September 17th, 2006, 02:44 PM
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Thumbs up That was a good discussion in that thread.

The question that I want to address is similar to the thread about a low miles $47,000 D90. What I am wondering is based on what was discovered in that thread. You can take a cheaper high mileage D90 and make it your own with the extra cash you save. This is a valid point especially if you are going to wheel it and make it your daily driver. With the theory that a Rover with low mileage may have reliability issues in that they have sat too long consider the following.


With this case the lower mileage D110 is cheaper due to rust and some service issues. It looks as though I may end up spending the same for either D110 once the lower priced one is brought up to speed. The one with higher mileage may or may not be more reliable. The lower mileage D110 will always show a desirable low miles, but is it worth it considering the work that has to be done and the possibility that a problem will not unearth itself till much later.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 02:55 PM
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I'd buy cheap, you're going to fix stuff on either truck at some point, I'd rather start 10k ahead of the game.

I thought there was a 110 on LRX recently for around 34-35k. On a 110, I'd get the cheapest one I could find since really all I figure I'm buying is a title and a safety devices roll cage. Damn near everything else is going in the bin during a rebuild.
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One question. The 25 NAS 110s imported into Canada had speedometers/odometers that were marked in Kilometers. Has the speedometer in this truck been changed for one that reads in Miles? If it has, then the true mileage will be unknown, lowering the value of the truck. If it is 104000 Kilometers...that is equivelant to about 65000 miles, in which case, I'd buy that one.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 04:13 PM
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Hey Jon, did you see this one? http://www.copleymotorcars.com/land_...5.3vo1028.html

I think you should ask the guys at Copley what their thoughts are on this as well. Of course they will be a little bias towards what they sell, but it wouldn't hurt. Looking at their site they have 4 of these 110s to choose from, other than miles and some accessories there's a huge difference in price. Copley overall seems pretty pricey, even if the one you are comparing it to is $10k more!
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110s are overrated a few more years and i think theyll be selling like flapjacks
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110s are overrated a few more years and i think theyll be selling like flapjacks
i can't wait! i just wish i had a bunch of free cash to go around the world buying up old d110's and getting them ready to import them at a fraction of the cost of an NAS one... of course they will need tons of work, but if the price was under 10k people could easily afford to build up a serious rig for less then the initial buy in of an NAS rig.
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Old September 17th, 2006, 07:24 PM
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I just dont see why people get so giddy over them is it because there are so few? the only 110 worth having would be a pickup. or if i had kids for a SW but thatll never happen. so yeah why are 110s so sought after?
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Better on road ride and more utility than a D90. One could argue that the longer wheelbase makes it a better offroader too.
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For more reasons I can list here but to list a few.. 9 person transport vs 4 (or 6 of you have a SW), for those of us that like to travel further than our backyards, the added interior storage space over a D90 is huge in addition that a 110 with the 2nd row of seats removed can also act as a motor home. Just pull your stuff out and instant secure home for the night or if you are solo, just shove it aside.

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Better on road ride and more utility than a D90. One could argue that the longer wheelbase makes it a better offroader too.
hehe,, I was going to touch on that but for general wheeling, the shorter 90's vs say 110s or discos/rr all get though the same trail fine, just more precise obstacles require different style to handle. Again talking general trails, I have yet to see either wheel base do a trail that the other has not yet.
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I just dont see why people get so giddy over them is it because there are so few? the only 110 worth having would be a pickup. or if i had kids for a SW but thatll never happen. so yeah why are 110s so sought after?

If you have to ask, there's no way I could explain it.

Why are 90's desireable?
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Old September 17th, 2006, 11:20 PM
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Jon,
If I had it to do all over again, I would have spent an extra $10k to get a truck without the rust issues if I had the money. I am almost 2 years into my 110 that I got with 96k on the clock. I got it from Copley and although some here seem to take exception to them, my experience with them was exceptional.

My truck has rust and they were pretty straight with me as to what it was. I made the choice entirely based on my very limited budget. I would also lean towards a well used (not abused) rover over one that has been sitting around. After 20,000 miles, the only thing I have had to replace is a water pump, and of course my oil lines for peace of mind.

Back to the rust issue however, on a rusty 110 you will most likely be looking at bulkhead, body capping, doors and T-supports. Which will probably run you at least $5k in those parts and however much you decide to spend on taking care of "other" stuff while you have it apart.

Having had a 95 90 (you bought mine - if you recall), I had to get rid of it because we were just about to have our second child. Now at 3 kids, there is no way that I could get by with the space of a 90 - since my 110 is my only vehicle. When I am not hauling the family, I generally have quite a bit of gear in the vehicle for camping, biking and AR events. Now you can jam all of this into a 90, but all of your buddies need to find another ride.

Matt
One question that always comes into my mind when I see Copley listing a "neglected" 110, is why, considering them selling all of these D110 ECR rigs (which seem to sell before the are done in all cases) is why they wouldn't just send it over as a doner for the next project...
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