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Old January 24th, 2013, 12:51 PM
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Where is the values trending for nas 90's

Back when I bought my first d90 I paid $31k. It was a 97 Willow Green LE with 30k miles. I flew to Michigan and drove it home 10hrs. Wish I still had it today.......That was a while ago!

So, do we see the keep rising in value or is it at it's highest now?

Do you think we will ever see the Defender built for the US again?
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Old January 24th, 2013, 01:18 PM
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Back when I bought my first d90 I paid $31k. It was a 97 Willow Green LE with 30k miles. I flew to Michigan and drove it home 10hrs. Wish I still had it today.......That was a while ago!

So, do we see the keep rising in value or is it at it's highest now?

Do you think we will ever see the Defender built for the US again?
It depends on the condition. They range from the low $10's to the ab$urd.

The cooler talk says they will be back in the near future... Some say 2015. Who knows.
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What has surprised me the most is that the imports are not dragging down the value of NAS trucks.
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The imports are all a lot older than the NAS trucks, so they are providing a
"lower price" option, while the newer NAS trucks stay at the top.

Condition pending of course.

even with the importing, D's are still very rare trucks!!
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Old January 24th, 2013, 01:48 PM
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The imports are all a lot older than the NAS trucks, so they are providing a
"lower price" option, while the newer NAS trucks stay at the top.

Condition pending of course.

even with the importing, D's are still very rare trucks!!
That and ROW's are not NAS's.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 01:57 PM
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That and ROW's are not NAS's.
And by definition the RHD's are not ROW's
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And by definition the RHD's are not ROW's
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Old January 24th, 2013, 02:14 PM
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Trucks from the U.K. are considered home market
Those built for AU and other RHD countries outside of SA are Export market
NAS is NAS
and Rest of World is all other LHD markets.
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And by definition the RHD's are not ROW's
Huh?!?!
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Old January 24th, 2013, 02:22 PM
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I think ROWs, if unrestored (no galvy, old paint, ratty interior, etc) are the ones trending down. I see them now in the low tens to mid-teens and even a few lower. I think there are a few importers hoping to capitalize on this trend that are holding inventory now.

The NAS are keeping their values (if not going up), especially if properly maintained. I bought my 94 NAS (#1256) in 2002 for $21K. Sold it in '06 but I saw it for sale in 2010 for $25K.
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ROW = Rest Of World ie not england (maybe UK someone from Ireland can school me and they can be LHD or RHD. Sometimes they are referred to as "export" spec.

NAS = North American Spec
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I wonder what mines going to be worth with its new frame, new paint and new 4.6 with RR 4.2 chip.
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and salvaged, right??
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and salvaged, right??
Well thats the beautiful part, it didn't get salvaged. So it just had an accident. Besides, even if it was salvaged (which it wasn't) I'm not going to sell it. It's my toy. That would be like you cutting off your massive calf muscles.
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With your unused winch and snorkel the truck is clearly worth millions.
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With your unused winch and snorkel the truck is clearly worth millions.

Actually the winch was used like once or twice by the previous owner for towing his boat into its cradle. haha. The snorkle was bought used from Rover accesories back when they were here in Torrance. The owner sold it to me for like 250. Real cheap. ( I used one of the hoses for the main intake hose) so yes, its there for asthetics. But the audio system is where I put a lot of money besides the drive train, 2 Alpine tv's, 15" top of the line kicker subwoofer, dual blue top optima, 0 guage wiring and huge polk amps. My d90 will be back soon, frames comming in less than 2 weeks.
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Neil, document the rebuild of the accident damage and I don't think it will hurt value much at all. If you do it right and don't use any bondo you will be fine.
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Neil, document the rebuild of the accident damage and I don't think it will hurt value much at all. If you do it right and don't use any bondo you will be fine.

I will take a lot of pics, I bought all new R & L complete NAS fenders including radiator panel. The cross brackets I think I will have to bend back to shape. I have a rebiult radiator waiting to go in since the one on there now was bent. I'm pretty sure the inner fender walls are fine, they look untouched. All the suspension components look great, but I will replace the trailing arms with terra firma chinese parts to "freshen up" the front end along with new drag links & ball joints. I might be able to salvage my bonnet, if not I'll just get another one. I will be painting the fenders seperately so thats going to help it look great. Anything aluminum that got bent (small part on the tub & passenger side door), I will have someone strip down to aluminum and anneal with torch to bend back. I was planning on replacing the doors with roll up type along with new style hinges. Should be a fun project, always wanted to do all this stuff you guys have been doing all these years. Nows my chance.
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Back when I bought my first d90 I paid $31k. It was a 97 Willow Green LE with 30k miles. I flew to Michigan and drove it home 10hrs. Wish I still had it today.......That was a while ago!

So, do we see the keep rising in value or is it at it's highest now?

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I think NAS 90 values will go down when more newer (1990-on) rigs start showing up here in the US. Lots of the imports I see are dogs, so comparing them to a NAS isn't really fair.

Bottom line, when you can buy a clean imported relatively rust free 300Tdi SW or 50th anniversary model, you'll see a change in NAS prices.

As for a Defender for the US, that will likely be affected by the above, but unless LR drastically changes the design, I don't see it. I suspect that anything they do import will be so different to the old Defenders that it would not be considered as a 'replacement'.

That said, I sure hope I am wrong, and that the current regs are changed so you can import any year defender with a mimimum of paperwork!
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Figure the new defender will be like a wrangler if we're lucky. Airbags, etc with lots of plastic like a puma.

As for values it is apples and oranges. Imports don't have the collectibility of nas trucks. As for when we can import trucks from the 90s don't forget they will be newer but still 25 years old. People don't take care of them out of the USA like we do. Everywhere else they are just used cars being imported. The nas trucks will always be for the most part in better condition and more coveted because of the limited numbers. Obviously I only think of the soft tops with the above statement.
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