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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:40 PM
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What would you do?

What would you do?

Sold truck on Ebay, deposit due in 48 hours and full payment within 7 days.

Winning bidder pays deposit via Paypal.

Winning bidder then informs me he is out of the country and can't pay the balance for a month. Additionally, he tries to negotiate a lower price because the genius forgot to figure in tax and shipping.

Winning bidder has not paid balance of truck within the 7 day window and is now asking for his deposit back.

Winning bidder threatens to sue me if I do not return deposit.

Just looking for opinions.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:44 PM
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I'd return his deposit & relist the truck. I don't know about you, but my time is too valuable for conflict like this.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Let him try to sue you. Pull the money out of paypal so he can't get it back.

Relist the truck and if you get full asking, then maybe consider giving it back (but I would not).
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:46 PM
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The terms of the ebay auction were clear? I'd ask ebay for their judgement before they side with this other tool for some reason.

Deposits are to hold an item until it can be fully paid for. Short of the item not being as described there is no basis to ask for your deposit back if you cannot pay.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:47 PM
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Went through this before.. Unless deposit is marked as non refundable they (PayPal) May side with him.. Let it go to arbitration through PayPal and you claim costs incurred by buyer not fulfilling contractual obligations.. Settle for giving a portion of the deposit back.. That may be your best scenario..
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 01:56 PM
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Not sure what the deposit amount is, but consider his negative feedback on your ebay account into this.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 02:01 PM
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I forgot to mention, the guy tried to reverse the deposit last night on Paypal, he contacted Paypal claiming it was an "unauthorized" payment. They shot that down right away.

I googled the guy and he does not have a good track record. The word "fraud" comes up many times when he is looked up. He is a business owner on the East Coast with a shady history. Paypal claims I do not need to pay back the deposit, it just concerns me as to how protected I am when speaking to someone in an overseas call center stating "I should be fine." I don't want to deal with some crazy threatening me. On the flipside, he was obviously bidding on my truck and ran the risk of winning the auction.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 02:07 PM
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I forgot to mention, the guy tried to reverse the deposit last night on Paypal, he contacted Paypal claiming it was an "unauthorized" payment. They shot that down right away. I googled the guy and he does not have a good track record. The word "fraud" comes up many times when he is looked up. He is a business owner on the East Coast with a shady history. Paypal claims I do not need to pay back the deposit, it just concerns me as to how protected I am when speaking to someone in an overseas call center stating "I should be fine." I don't want to deal with some crazy threatening me. On the flipside, he was obviously bidding on my truck and ran the risk of winning the auction.
Have patience. Let eBay and Paypal sort it out. If he wasn't such a dick I would have refunded him the money. But at this point keep your documentation up to date
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 02:13 PM
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I googled the guy and he does not have a good track record. The word "fraud" comes up many times when he is looked up. He is a business owner on the East Coast with a shady history. Paypal claims I do not need to pay back the deposit, it just concerns me as to how protected I am when speaking to someone in an overseas call center stating "I should be fine." I don't want to deal with some crazy threatening me. On the flipside, he was obviously bidding on my truck and ran the risk of winning the auction.
What business does he own?
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 02:18 PM
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What business does he own?
This ^^^^^^

Life is to short to loose sleep over this turd. Let EBay sort it out and then re-list the truck specifying a time limit to complete the transaction and specifically state that deposits are 100% non-refundable and that any taxes and transportation costs are on the buyer.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 02:31 PM
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Relist the truck, with non refundable deposit due to time wasters.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:16 PM
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Good advice from all, I did stipulate all requirements for the auction. At this point, the turd emailed me again and copied his lawyer. I understand this can all be him posturing, I just do not have time do deal with this.

I will not mention his business, however, he is a restaurant owner and had had many places shut down for illegal activities in the establishments.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:32 PM
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Good advice from all, I did stipulate all requirements for the auction. At this point, the turd emailed me again and copied his lawyer. I understand this can all be him posturing, I just do not have time do deal with this.

I will not mention his business, however, he is a restaurant owner and had had many places shut down for illegal activities in the establishments.

Let him ring up his lawyer bill. Ebay and Paypal has rules.


Just ask this question to the Lawyer and copy the turd:


Are you representing this client in this matter? It is my understanding that if you are I should no longer have communication with him, and he should have no communication with me. If so please send me a representation letter.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 03:39 PM
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Not sure what the deposit amount is, but consider his negative feedback on your ebay account into this.
This can be assumed at this point. Move forward without concern of negative feedback and follow the ebay policies strictly to the letter. you're in ebay arbitration now. I'm sure if the deposit was under 2-3k, that his lawyer bills will catch up to those quickly. In end, you have your truck, worst case he gets some of his deposit back, and he comes out in the negative on cash due to cost of being a putz.

Plus, you get to throw a negative at him too.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 04:03 PM
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What truck is back up for sale?
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 04:09 PM
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id be willing to guess that ebay and Paypal have more powerful lawyers than he does…. The lawyer crap is b.s. anyway.. He will spend more on an attorney to come after you than he sent you as a deposit.
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 04:57 PM
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He can't leave negative feedback if the sale is not completed.. If he does you simply call eBay and they will remove it...
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Old August 22nd, 2014, 05:41 PM
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Been thru this - DO EXACTLY WHAT RON SAID TO DO...
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